ya, really! and the 400+ actually has 12 power tubes. very nice amp, but let's get real...nothing space shuttle about an amp with 12 power tubes.
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Anyone NOT like the SVT?
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Regardless of how that might end up sounding, I just love the fact that it's totally a thing you can do...
JimmyM said:
12? Ok, my miss, but hey we have lots of SVT here in Norway, while the 400+ or any Mesa are rare!
Otherwise of the old stuff, yes there are some Peavey's, GK and SWR, but at most cases if it is a big backline it will be a SVT.
Bill Posters said:
Actually yesterday I've connected both my Geddy and my CV P bass to my Ibanez combo. The Geddy was connected through the EBS multicomp, the sansamp PBDR on SVT "mode", my Squier was connected to my iPad running Amplitube with SVT and comp on, the iPad was connected to the same combo through the mp3/CD - in. Both bass's could be played at the same time. I must say the iPad "preamp" worked WAY better than I thought. For sure many more sound options through the iPad + Amplitube.
I think the SVT is one of the great classics.
My point was about Peavey's visibility on TV especially on country shows. It was not about backline and Peavey. I have seen contracts that specified no Peavey.
Product placement is another thing to consider. As in who paid for their amp to be on that TV show?
Why was a Hiwatt half stack on the stage in at Central Perk (Friends) with Phoebe playing solo acoustic guitar?
But hey, who plays an amp because it's on TV?
Jimmy ...You are definately right about not seeing many Acoustics as a backline rig-I've only seen 1 360/361 ever as a backline rig, but SVT hands down is the most popular and for probably for a good reason-in a club sized venue the SVT is a better choice...An Acoustic 360 has such a long throw that unless a bassist has a lot of experience with one, they turned themselves up too loud be cause they did'nt realize how loud they were 20-30 feet in front of the stage. So sound men also didn't like them in smaller gigs...as one sound man once told me jokingly "when they are loud enough up front on stage, they can so loud at the front door where the patrons come in...its like, in, weatherman terms...that amp creates a low pressure front makin a wall of wind(sound) so that the front door of the club is hard to open"
. However the SVT is reatively simple to dial in your tone and volume and it sounds great,punchy on stage without overpowering the audience, and if you play thru a PA ,then you don't have to have the bass and guitars and drums all in the same sound space and you can have better separation, without all the mush off-stage as I mentioned in the old days when we played so loud at distorted high gain and were'nt going thru the PA. But there are a lot of other club worthy Rigs now...not just the SVT....but its a very good one!! Peace...DAcat
I thought we were talking about what I see gigged.
For every Ampeg I see on TV, I see half a dozen Peavey combo amps on a stage in a bar.
It is at mine also... but I probably see 500 Peaveys for every 1965 B-18 like mine.
I don't dislike the SVT. An SVT on a 8x10 is actually one of my favorite setups if I don't have to haul it.
...but they aren't what I see people gigging at most of the shows I do/see.
exactly. For me the mesa bass 400 on a mesa 2x15 is the lighter younger sibling. I cant one hand an SVT. I can one hand my bass 400. Not very far but its possible!
Interesting. It's a great time to be a musician with all the great choices we have in gear. Why settle for what someone else likes when you can find your own flavour of amp, right? And I totally understand that the SVT isn't for everyone.
The SVT+810 is still my favourite setup too and I bring it to all medium sized rooms and up. I just don't find it difficult to move. Maybe my gig situations are easier than most, but in those rooms where I bring the SVT, I rarely have to move it more than 100 feet between the truck and the stage. That's maybe a minute of my life, at the most. OK, maybe two minutes if you count load out too
I know that back injuries are complete game changers, and I don't have to stuff my gear into the trunk of a taxi. If that was the case, I'd be playing through something else. I have smaller gear for small rooms, but the SVT comes out most often.
Interesting. It's a great time to be a musician with all the great choices we have in gear. Why settle for what someone else likes when you can find your own flavour of amp, right? And I totally understand that the SVT isn't for everyone.
The SVT+810 is still my favourite setup too and I bring it to all medium sized rooms and up. I just don't find it difficult to move. Maybe my gig situations are easier than most, but in those rooms where I bring the SVT, I rarely have to move it more than 100 feet between the truck and the stage. That's maybe a minute of my life, at the most. OK, maybe two minutes if you count load out too
For me its:
1) Load up. Which means carrying the equipment UP 15 stairs out of my basement, maneuvering it through 2 hallways, and out my front door.
2) Transport. I have to load: PA mains, PA/monitor amp rack case, my amp, my cab, my basses, all the cables, and my wifes drum kit in the vehicle. I can barely fit a fEarful 15/6.
3) Gig. Average "stage" size - 15-20' wide, 8' deep... for everything.
Then reverse all that for taking it home.
An 8x10+SVT won't fit in my car, would be difficult to shoehorn onto stage, and would be a huge pain to haul in and out of my basement.
I'm going to propose "Calaveras Law".
The longer a discussion of bass gear continues, the higher the likelihood of the mention of the fearful. The number of mentions of fearful is a complicated formula that essentially works out to the number of pages in the thread divided by two plus a little bit more.
I never have been good at showing my math.
i will help you spread your law, bro. but you must add the sundogue exception...if sundogue can't get to a computer that day, fearful run-ins decrease by 90%
that said, i love the idea of the fearful. got nothing against smaller boxes that sound amazing and big.
that said, i love the idea of the fearful. got nothing against smaller boxes that sound amazing and big.
it never has been the "amp of the people." it's always been a pretty pricey item, even when it first came out, and you'll always see more old amps that cost 1/3 the price of an svt because more people buy them. the most popular amp ever made is the hartke ha3500, for example.
Huh... sounds kind of like what I said:
...but Turock seems to insist that there is no way i see tons of folks playing 20 year old SS heads (HA3500s ALL over the place) relative to tube heads.
Could be...
Wherever it is I play though - I know I see way more 20 year old SS amps than TOTAL tube amps.
The SVT was built for stadiums and it's the best at what it does, even after 40 years.
Now, what it doesn't isn't what most musicians need these days.
Let's get real, most of us play bars, small clubs or bigger rooms with PAs and most of the time we don't have trucks to move gear or roadies to load them.
The SVT is indeed sought after but it never was a common sight.
COmbine cost and practibility issues and yeah, you're most likely to see a Hartke 3500 with a 4x10 than a SVT, wherever you gig.
Now, what it doesn't isn't what most musicians need these days.
Let's get real, most of us play bars, small clubs or bigger rooms with PAs and most of the time we don't have trucks to move gear or roadies to load them.
The SVT is indeed sought after but it never was a common sight.
COmbine cost and practibility issues and yeah, you're most likely to see a Hartke 3500 with a 4x10 than a SVT, wherever you gig.
