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Double Bass Anyone tried the Phil Jones CAB-47?

Barcza

Barcza

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I sold my GS115 cab, and searching for a new cab for my Aguilar AG 500sc. Now I interested to smaller speakers conception cabs...
I looking for something pretty lightweight, clear, flat sounding cab what really cut trough....
This cab has good price, and Phil Jones had good reputation, I tried 4x5 usa made PJ cabs, but this one seems a bit different and China “assembled”.
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I have two Cab 27’s that I run together for my Electric rig and they are great. I want to try one of them with my upright bet haven’t yet. I have a EA VL110 but I think it’ll be too boomy for my upright and I think the Cab27 might be a better choice but haven’t tried it out yet.
 
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Options. All three of these rigs are 200w.. both cabs (old '72 Peavey and the new Phil Jones) are 8ohm. With the ABY pedal pictured, I could theoretically run both cabs off the ELF, and the GK at the same time. Not sure where I'd ever need that much sound but it's cool to know it's possible. Poor old heavy Crate doesn't leave the house but it's a beast, made in USA too.

Gig tomorrow is outdoor, huge wide open space. Going to see what the Phil Jones 27 will do on its own, but I'll have the GK in the car for backup.
 
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Unbrokenchain really likes the cab 27. Granted, it wasn't quite the stage volume I was thinking it would be, guitar direct, vocals and fiddle used a condenser mic and no monitors, but the mains were cranked pretty good, and the elf/27 is LOUD. I didn't run a line to the PA, didn't use a preamp with the Realist (just to see what it'd do), and the bartender (across the way in the shipping container..) asked me to turn down the bass. :) I had gain just barely off the bottom and volume a touch more than halfway on the elf. Tons of headroom even with just one cab. Easily enough to hang with a drummer.

Sound quality? Dude. Great. No sacrifice of low end, at all. In fact for the first set it was way too bassy and boomy and it took me a minute to figure out why - the rear ports! The sound was bouncing off the masonite "wall" and created a lot of reverb/mud. I ended up putting the rig in front of me by the fire extinguisher post, facing out. The rear ports were then facing me, and I found it to be advantageous since I could still hear my bass very clearly but the bulk of the volume was going out front.

Pizz sound was very similar to my GK 112ii, it would be interesting to blind test and see if I can tell them apart. I did a good number of tunes arco as well, and it's easily the best sound with the bow I've ever gotten with a pickup. (!!!)

I do wish the elf had more than a 3-band EQ, even one more knob would be great, but I won't complain considering the size of the thing.


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The one bar in Ashevegas that's not crowded on a Friday night. French Broad Outfitters Hominy Creek, they're a little off the beaten path but a popular spot for pulling boats and tubes out of the river. Paddle the river, grab a beer and some tunes when you're done ;) Dog friendly as well. If we had started at 4pm we would have had a crowd, but instead we started at 8pm, so it trickled out pretty thin by the time we finished. Meh, wasn't such a bad thing for us since it was our first time playing together and we got to experiment a little.
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I'm thinking about a new compact amp setup. As a amp the Ampeg PF500 is my number one at the moment. But I'm in doubt about the CAB. I like the compactness of the CAB27. But will it give the same bass response as a 1x12 (Hartke HD112 or something like that).

I read a lot about Phil Jones beïng mainly used for upright bass. How about just regular country-pop-rock?
 
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I've always used the same cabinets for different styles of music. Phil Jones doesn't built cabinets for a specific style of music, that said

Hartke has just never appealed to me. The CAB27 is only rated at 200 Watts, so It wouldn't be something I'd take on a rock gig by itself. Just my take however.
 
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unbrokenchain said:
Yes. No lack of bass response at all, great cab. Just be aware of the rear ports, in certain environments they can cause a lack of note distinction imo. In front of a stage curtain, no problem. In a corner by a window, eh..
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I was intrigued by this cab from the start. I wonder if a good HPF can take care of the mud. Phil really knows how to squeeze every ounce of power out of his cabs. I’ve used his double four on quartet gigs in medium sized rooms with no problems.
 
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Adam Booker said:
I was intrigued by this cab from the start. I wonder if a good HPF can take care of the mud. Phil really knows how to squeeze every ounce of power out of his cabs. I’ve used his double four on quartet gigs in medium sized rooms with no problems.
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To me it's all about where the cab is placed on the stage, I'm not sure a HPF is necessary. Another solution for the rear-port "bounce" is to use a tilt-back amp stand, which points the ports at the (ideally carpeted) floor. It's really only when the ports are pointed directly at a hard surface that I've noticed any mud at all. I've had lots of other musicians comment on how much sound was coming from the rather small cab. I still prefer the GK 12 for BG, but for DB I have no plans to change from the 27. Ymmv but for me it's pretty ideal. :thumbsup:
 
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Glad I caught this thread. I’ve been intrigued by these Phil Jones cabinets and currently watching three models - 2x7, 4x7, and 8x5 - on eBay (you know, for all the gigs I have on my calendar). I have the Peavey MiniMax head as well (great for electric not so good for upright IMO) and also an AI Clarus II which I suspect would pair well with the PJ cabinets.

Good to be able to read what folks are taking away from their experience with the PJ gear here.
 

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