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Army to shoot live pigs for training

#189
Pacman said:
Because this is being used for medics, not doctors. Meaning, these are the kids that are patching soldiers up often while people are still shooting at them. The added level of stress alone makes the job nearly impossible. By doing this type of training, it takes one component of stressor (that of self-preservation) out of the equation.

And soldiers died of combat wounds at levels FAR higher than they do today.

Having been in the Army, I feel qualified to speak to how the Army trains. I'm confident that before shooting the pig, hours of classwork, followed by hours of simulated practice are taught. Think of the pig as the 'final exam' and you've got an idea of how training for the military works.
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Bingo. I personally know someone who has been through the infamous "goat lab." Not pretty, and he was pretty shaken up afterwards. But the training he received was invaluable and was ultimately put into use.

People want a BLT, but they don't want to see the slaughter. People want soldiers sent into combat adequately training, but they don't want to face what that really entails. The only thing new here is the Army's admission that they're actually using the pigs for training. Otherwise, this is very old news.
 
#192
Pacman said:
Because this is being used for medics, not doctors. Meaning, these are the kids that are patching soldiers up often while people are still shooting at them. The added level of stress alone makes the job nearly impossible. By doing this type of training, it takes one component of stressor (that of self-preservation) out of the equation.



And soldiers died of combat wounds at levels FAR higher than they do today.




Having been in the Army, I feel qualified to speak to how the Army trains. I'm confident that before shooting the pig, hours of classwork, followed by hours of simulated practice are taught. Think of the pig as the 'final exam' and you've got an idea of how training for the military works.
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Thanks Pac...man, heavy stuff no matter where you sit on this!
 
#194
bradjonesbass said:
People want the government to know when terrorist attacks are coming so the government can stop them, but they don't want.....:hiding:
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...to give us the tools to do it. You're preaching to the choir there, buddy. :cool:

Hey Jon,

Had a great gig today outside San Fernando Cathedral with some monster players for World Youth Day. SOP for you, but a real treat for me to play out on the River Walk with a pro backline and an appreciative crowd. Good times. :)
 
#195
lump said:
...to give us the tools to do it. You're preaching to the choir there, buddy. :cool:

Hey Jon,

Had a great gig today outside San Fernando Cathedral with some monster players for World Youth Day. SOP for you, but a real treat for me to play out on the River Walk with a pro backline and an appreciative crowd. Good times. :)
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Dammit, man! You're gigging more than I am.....


Cool for you tho! I love backline provided gigs.
 
#200
I know I'm going to get hell for this, but here goes.

I respect "animal rights". I respect people that are going into training in the army. As much as I don't feel animals should be put in pain, I think this thing has a point. For instance, can a soldier handling the life of one of his peers who has been shot in battle prepare himself for the shock that he would experience? I think that this, if undertaken at all, however should be EXTREMELY limited....to like one pig per day, with one soldier.
 

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