Attention all TBers with neckdivey basses

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by MaskedJackal, Nov 23, 2005.

  1. How do you remedy the problem? My Hamer Explorer-style bass is giving me quite a bit of trouble. :crying:

    Can you get Steinberger-style strap extensions anywhere? :eyebrow:
  2. LukeMan970


    Jun 22, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    I don't really know, wear the strap real high works pretty good but i'm selling my Warwick because of the neck dive. Even a moody strap couldn't cure it of neckdive.
  3. slagbass


    Apr 5, 2005
    I found a wide (3.5") strap balanced my old Fender P bass nicely.
  4. notrt


    Jun 29, 2004
    Good evening to all:

    Neck diving ERB's are a major peeve of mine. I can't understand why boutique builders don't simply adjust the body templates and/or body thickness to compensate for the extra weight of the neck and so on...besides, a body outline which looks great on a 5'er sometimes looks sort of out of proportion on a 6'er and worse on a wider necked ERB instrument. End of rant...

    There's a solution...get your local luthier to install a female threaded insert in the upper bout of your bass, and add a male threaded insert with your strap button on it, length selected to achieve the sort of balence you want. It works on even the worst neck-diver. If you're interested in the stealth look :ninja: , just use black anodized/coated/plated material and a black strap and most folks won't ever notice it's there in the first place.

    :smug: YOU WILL, though, because you won't be fightin' an out of balence instrument all night long...

    In my limited experience, props for this simple idea go to my friend John Warden of Warden Custom Guitars out of Woodstock, Maryland. He has fixed several of my out of balence neck divin' ERBS nicely, cheaply, and with a quick turnaround to boot.

    Hope that helps. It really does work...

    Happy Thanksgiving to all---

    RC a/k/a "notrt"
  5. CetiAlphaVI


    May 27, 2005
    I had a shop drill a big hole in mine (a little above the strap button on the bridge side of the body), place one of the heavy solid chromed slides in it (13 oz. I think it was), glue it in, fill the hole and no more neck dive. I got a nice thick long hollow leather strap, which cured most of the problem, and this took the rest of it away. A little heavier, but I think it even added a little more sustain.
  6. fraublugher


    Nov 19, 2004
    ottawa, ontario, canada
    music school retailer
    ya , uh , i wasn't recommending the belt idea @ NJL :D

    i was refering to hambones post about the upper bout strap position

  7. NJL


    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    Don't think I can't hear you! :spit:

    :D ;)

    Yeah, my belt trick worked for about 2 songs and then I switched back. :D
  8. NJL


    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    Could you explain this again, in a different way?

  9. Funky Doctor

    Funky Doctor

    Aug 28, 2003
    I use a wdie strap, and my right forearm basically rests on my bass, so that helps also.
  10. pklima

    pklima Commercial User

    May 2, 2003
    Kraków, Polska
    Karoryfer Samples
    Great idea. The Wish version of it would involve driving a pound of nails into the body of your bass.

    For those who don't want to mod their basses, adding some weighty decoration to the butt end of your strap will accomplish much the same thing except for the added sustain. Giant buckles or metal studs, depending on whether you're country or metal.
  11. Vorago

    Vorago (((o)))

    Jul 17, 2003
    Antwerp, Belgium
    This is what I did with my Warwick.

    I made a little strap (like the ones you find on backpacks, with this little clicker atached) and attached it to my belt. Next, I connected this little belt with the end of my strap, so my belt held down the bass.

    A bit like this beltstrap.gif
  12. Kelly Lee

    Kelly Lee Yeah, I'm a guy! Supporting Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Marana, AZ, USA
    As most know, BC Rich basses are notorious for neck dive.

    My BCR Virgin had the same problem. Here are a few pics of my fix. I'm sure alot of people would cringe at my solution but it works. Its not quite finished yet as I need to touch up the black paint. As you can see, it is not really noticeable in the playing position.

    You can also see I found a good use for a guitarist. :p

  13. NJL


    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    Outstanding! Where did you find that piece? What material is it?

  14. Akami

    Akami Four on the floor

    Mar 6, 2005
    Another possible fix is going with some of the newer ultra lightweight tuners available.

    Neck dive is caused by too much weight at the headstock and in the neck itself in relation to the balancing points of the strap buttons, which makes the lighter tuners a very attractive possibility if you've got the cash available.

    Another is that you'll notice some companies have started putting the rear strap button higher up as opposed to being directly down the centerline behind the bridge.
  15. NJL


    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    Nope, been there and done that...didn't help at all on my bass.
  16. Kelly Lee

    Kelly Lee Yeah, I'm a guy! Supporting Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Marana, AZ, USA
    It was made from a heavy duty shelf bracket that I picked up at Walmart. I think it was like $3 already in black. It was
    shaped similar to the little graphic I made below but with a rounded hook on the top. I cut it roughly where the arrows are.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention that it is made from steel. The hole for the strap button was already there as it was the hole to mount the bracket to a wall. To hold the strap button on I went down to Ace Hardware. There I picked up a bolt that would fit through the strap button and a self locking nut (the ones with the nylon insert) to go with it.
  17. Akami

    Akami Four on the floor

    Mar 6, 2005
    This is something I've always thought would at least be helpful if you already had some fairly weighty tuners but evidently not.

    Was there any noticeable difference in the weight of the tuners you swapped?

    Anyway I guess it goes down to another YMMV. :meh:
  18. NJL


    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    You are simply a genius. Dooood! I'm trippin'!!!