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AUDIO TEST: Maple+Maple vs. Alder+Rosewood!
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Dan, I got the basses right, but missed on the mix. Now that I see you didn't use a goat in the studio, I don't feel so bad for picking the wrong bass in the mix, as your testing method was obviously flawed.
Once again, thank you for putting the time and effort into these test. Alway fun and informative.
Check that. You would also have to build a bass playing robot that plays exactly the same way every time to avoid any bias from human playing differences.
+1
You can't get rounds to sound like flats. I've tried. All you can do is get them to sound like rounds with the tone rolled down.
Flats have a completely different vibe. They are the sound of a bass fully embracing itself as a bass, with no shame. They proudly declare their bass-ness without compromise. They do not try to pretend they are a guitar.
Let's forget about bright/dark, round/flat, purple/yellow for a moment...
The basses clearly sound different and I heard a much more solid fundamental in Bass 1.
I'm dying to know WHY! Bass 1 got the bottom end of the tone right in my mind. I can't speak for the top end because of the string choice...But the bottom end (for me) was right on bass 1.
So how 'bout it? Why do YOU think there's a difference in the basses and what made the bottom of bass 1 so much different than bass 2?
The basses clearly sound different and I heard a much more solid fundamental in Bass 1.
I'm dying to know WHY! Bass 1 got the bottom end of the tone right in my mind. I can't speak for the top end because of the string choice...But the bottom end (for me) was right on bass 1.
So how 'bout it? Why do YOU think there's a difference in the basses and what made the bottom of bass 1 so much different than bass 2?
Well, since you only use flats maybe you won't notice it as much. Though I do notice it rather conspicuously in the mids and upper mids when I use flats or tapes.
I only use round wounds. They make a lot of their own noise, noise that isn't influenced by the wood. Obviously they make sound that is influenced by the wood, but not all of it.
That's why I like broken-in rounds so much. That extra zing that they add to the tone is gone and all that's there is the tone of the bass, with nothing added or subtracted.
That's why I like broken-in rounds so much. That extra zing that they add to the tone is gone and all that's there is the tone of the bass, with nothing added or subtracted.
mongo2 said:
I played rounds for 15 years. Then I saw the light.
Whether using rounds, flats, or tapes the tone difference between woods remained the same (very subtle).
It's an integrated whole, all of it is influenced by everything else on the instrument, nothing really acts in isolation.
For you. For me it's quite conspicuous.
Looks like it comes back to that personal perception and ability to hear the differences thing again.
Sorry, I just cannot believe that. Maybe when I've played longer and reached "enlightenment", like you.
Sorry, I just cannot believe that. Maybe when I've played longer and reached "enlightenment", like you.
Why the sarcasm?
I can discuss strings if you'd like but they have a different forum for that.
Dan,
I'm trying to get a bass that helps me achieve my goals. Since you're a builder who has at least in part hit my goals with a very specific instrument. I want to know about that instrument and why you think it hit that one aspect of my tonal goals.
As a builder, Why do you think Bass 1 sounds different than Bass 2?
I'm trying to get a bass that helps me achieve my goals. Since you're a builder who has at least in part hit my goals with a very specific instrument. I want to know about that instrument and why you think it hit that one aspect of my tonal goals.
As a builder, Why do you think Bass 1 sounds different than Bass 2?
For you. For me it's quite conspicuous.
Looks like it comes back to that personal perception and ability to hear the differences thing again.
Looks like it comes back to you not grasping that the perception of your ears is influenced by your eyes telling you what you are playing, and that based on pure chance, a significant number of people will guess right in a poll like this, the salient point being that the overall numbers show no real difference between the 2 woods. Regardless of your belief, if you cannot provide any real evidence to support it, in the face of convincing evidence to the contrary, your argument is hollow and unconvincing, however boundless your persistence.
Yeah, I expected that. Fact is that people are different with differing capabilities.
