Why would one want to?
Drunk ladies at a wedding, with a 153 on a pole, is a recipe for serious groove.
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Avatar 3 way 15/6/tweet part 2
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Drunk ladies at a wedding, with a 153 on a pole, is a recipe for serious groove.
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Just pulled the trigger on one of these after debating about getting a lightweight 4x10. Can't wait!
+1, I'm assuming the great mid-presence makes for some decent distortion, without the tweeter on.
I'm giving some serious consideration into picking up a pair of these cabs, the 3-way design makes for some really versatile cabs, in addition to bass rig, I could use them for DJ gigs as well as keyboard rig.
My question is, how do these compare to a 4x10, let's say an Avatar neo 4x10 for on-stage monitor? Obviously they throw really well, but what about up close? I've gravitated towards 4x10s in the recent years because of how well I can hear myself on stage with them. How does the TB153 compare in this regard?
Can't speak for the Avatar cab, but the fEARful cabs (on which the 153 is loosely based) are very easily heard up close or anywhere on stage.
A 6" mid has MUCH better dispersion than the 20"+ equivalent you get from a 410. The result is that the cab sounds nearly the same where ever you stand in relation to it. (within reason, that is.) Most people who've tried fEARfuls get comments from the other band members about how much better they can hear the bass guitar on stage. I'd expect the Avatar cab to be almost as good.
A 6" mid has MUCH better dispersion than the 20"+ equivalent you get from a 410. The result is that the cab sounds nearly the same where ever you stand in relation to it. (within reason, that is.) Most people who've tried fEARfuls get comments from the other band members about how much better they can hear the bass guitar on stage. I'd expect the Avatar cab to be almost as good.
Wow, that's impressive. I really hope that they are still available by the time I have the money saved to buy one.
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I LOVE the way my TB153 sounds up close. Favorite sound after 30 years and that's just great passive basses into a 1 volume knob high quality headphone preamp into a Stewart World 1.2 power amp into the Avatar.
I guess a good efficient 410. I couldn't find any specs on their site. I know that doesn'ttell the whole story though.
As I've posted earlier, I have no experience with Avatar cabs.
However, the Avatar TB153 is loosely based on the fEARful 15/6/1 design.
Fron the fEARful site:
"A 12/6 is almost as loud as most 210 cabs with one watt input, and more extended in response. When driven fully it can get nearly as loud as a good 410. The fEARFUL will sound fuller while maintaining clarity, and will disperse wider. It will not lose its punch when driven hard.
A 15/6 is as loud as most 310 cabs with one watt input, and more extended in response. With a lot of watts it can get as loud or louder than a 610 driven to its limits, and will sound fuller and more responsive while doing it."
Therefore, I would expect that, even with the design compromises that make the TB153 more affordable than a fEARful, it would be at least as "loud" as a typical 410. It would definitely have better mid dispersion.
However, the Avatar TB153 is loosely based on the fEARful 15/6/1 design.
Fron the fEARful site:
"A 12/6 is almost as loud as most 210 cabs with one watt input, and more extended in response. When driven fully it can get nearly as loud as a good 410. The fEARFUL will sound fuller while maintaining clarity, and will disperse wider. It will not lose its punch when driven hard.
A 15/6 is as loud as most 310 cabs with one watt input, and more extended in response. With a lot of watts it can get as loud or louder than a 610 driven to its limits, and will sound fuller and more responsive while doing it."
Therefore, I would expect that, even with the design compromises that make the TB153 more affordable than a fEARful, it would be at least as "loud" as a typical 410. It would definitely have better mid dispersion.
I recently got a Walkabout combo. I also have a GK1001-RBII with 410/115 set-up. After putting the WA thru the GK cabs, I'm in love with the WA. But, the 410/115 is not even at all. Lows are overboomy and almost "sub" like in character.
With all that, I'm thinking of the TB153---but not sure whether to get two at 8ohms each. I don't think the one 4ohm version would be enough.
How many of you are running TWO TB153s?
With all that, I'm thinking of the TB153---but not sure whether to get two at 8ohms each. I don't think the one 4ohm version would be enough.
How many of you are running TWO TB153s?
On the GK cabs - IME boominess depends on which 115 you have. I had a Neo 115 series 1 - very boomy. I now have a NEO115-II; no boom at all, and think it's a killer little cab. This isn't saying anything about the 153, I'm sure the 153 is both louder and more articulate, but just sayin'...
I should have stated above, but my other thought is to get an 8 ohm TB153 for lower volume and then match with the Scout cab (I forgot to mention I have the Scout 12) and run at 2.6 ohms.
Lows are not overly boomy unless maybe you crank the heck out of them. Low notes on the E string and drop D are especially nice, tight, big but not muddy. Notes on the A, D and G strings on my passive J bass are way bigger and more even sounding.
For the record, my TB153 is much louder than a older Genz 410/115 stack I used to run with about 800 watts and I'd say it's a fair amount louder that an (early series) Eden D410XLT I owned which was a pretty loud cab. I run mine in small clubs with no PA support and so far so good... the guys in the band are shocked at how loud it gets but yet doesn't make stage over rumbley'.
Correctamundo!
Powering it with about 490watts from one side of a Crown Macro-Tech 1200. Stage volume would have to be ridiculous to need more than one and you would definitely have to wear ear plugs to stand in from of two of these at volume... The sound pressure level from that 3015LF is crazy....
I bought the 8 ohm version in case I wanted to add another one later. I can't see a need to ever do that. The one 8 ohm cab is silly loud and I'm sure that one
4 ohm would be loud enough for 99% of users.
4 ohm would be loud enough for 99% of users.
