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Avatar B210 Speaker Replacement

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Lastoneasleep, Sep 12, 2017.


  1. Hey guys!

    A while ago I bought an Avatar B210 directly from Avatar, but through eBay. It came loaded with some Celestion speakers that I've really tried to like, but I don't. The bass response just isn't there. I want to replace them with some Eminence Deltalite II 2510s. I just want some opinions to see if its worth spending the money. I play 4,5, and 6 string basses and would like to make sure that this 2x10 would be suitable for them all.

    Here's a link to the speakers:
    AV DeltaLite2 10 – Avatar Speakers

    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    I would sure recommend doing the calculations to be sure the new drivers will work as expected. They may, but may not as well.
     
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  3. Or return it if you still can.
     
  4. Kro

    Kro Formerly kap'n kro Supporting Member

    May 7, 2003
    New Jersey
    Is this the B210 design that you have?

    B210slot.

    Happy to be corrected if wrong, but waay back when (I think 2003), when that version of the B210 design was released, I believe it came loaded with ceramic Eminence Delta 10s. Rumor has it that that box design was originally developed with help from Eminence... again, at that point in time probably around those Delta 10 drivers.

    Personally, I have one of those B210s and have played with it with the original Delta 10s, and with the later Avater OEM ceramic Delta 10s. I can tell you that to my ear, I greatly preferred those original stock Deltas for whatever reason. Those would be my recommendation, as long as you don't mind the cab weighing 50lbs... I think those drivers are also pretty cheap though... YMMV.

    I'm not really sure how those Deltalites compare spec-wise to the ceramic Deltas.
     
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  5. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    You can call US Speaker and give them the interior dimensions and the dimensions of the port/vent. They will give you several speakers to choose from based on the physics, your budget and your tone/volume goals.
     
  6. Yep. That's the design I have. I'll look into the specs on the Delta 10s, thanks for the heads up!
     
  7. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Toronto Ontario Canada
    Why not just give Dave at Avatar a call. He should know if there are alternate drivers that will work in your box.
     
  8. They sell the deltalite ii 2510 as an alternate for this cab. I just wanted to see if people thought it sounded good with those speakers.
     
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  9. Sanchan

    Sanchan

    Jan 4, 2014
    I am not too sure this helps!? I just purchased four Eminence Delatalite ii 2510 from Avatar and installed them into Carvin BRX cabs. I have spent only one hour so far but I am loving them. Calvin BRX is very similar to B210 in size/demention IMHO.
     
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  10. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Toronto Ontario Canada
    I really hope that your cabinet does not have dementia! :)
     
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  11. McG

    McG Goat Hill Gamblers Supporting Member

    Oct 6, 2010
    Costa Mesa, CA
    My Avatar B210 is loaded with Deltalite ii 2510s. It was on consignment at a music store gig. I gave the cab a test drive for the gig and fell in love with it. Been gigging with it for a year and still love it.

    Note that I've only played a 4 string through it so I can't comment on how it will be with a 5 or 6 string.
     
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  12. 74hc

    74hc

    Nov 19, 2015
    California
    Take BassmanPaul's advice. I bought my Avatar 2x12 about a decade ago. Dave is a good guy back then, and very likely is today. Just give them a call.
     
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  13. Jhonsey

    Jhonsey Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2014
    Minneapolis, MN
    I too recommend calling Dave. He is a great guy and very helpful. I've been using that same cabinet in my upright rig for many years. He was instrumental in helping me make a decision on what cabinet to buy.
     
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  14. johnson79

    johnson79

    Jan 8, 2010
    Lancaster, PA
    I'd call up Avatar and see what they can tell you about that speaker. I've heard they provide great customer service.
     
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  15. Ampslut

    Ampslut Supporting Member

    May 15, 2017
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  16. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois

    Been gigging two Avatar 210 cabinets loaded with Eminence 2510 Neo's for almost 10 years.

    Never a problem, with great, solid low end to my ears.

    I'm playing a old, passive, 4 string jazz into a Mesa M-6 Fathom/Carbine head in a LOUD outlaw country band.
    The Avatars have been great!
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2017
  17. Update: I have two Eminence 2510 Neos on the way from Avatar! Thanks for the input everybody! I'll do another update once they're installed telling everyone what I think!
     
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  18. Sanchan

    Sanchan

    Jan 4, 2014
    Congrats! I was so excited when those speakers arrived at my door! :)
     
  19. Update: The new deltalites arrived on Saturday from Avatar. Saw the package when I got home from a long hike, but decided it was worth putting them in that night. I ended up staying up most of the night playing once they were in. The B210 sounds great now!!! Lots of low end with clarity and punch. It was definitely worth the switch! On a lighter side, if anyone wants a pair of Celestion B10-200S speakers, I have some hahaha
     
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  20. grenadilla

    grenadilla

    Aug 22, 2011
    alabama
    I have that cabinet with Celestions , perhaps in a feeble attempt to be more Marshally. Also the regular ceramic Delta version and you might not hear much difference . I got a neo version that sounds 'different'. The big change is when you stack them . Three cabinets put out like a SVT; one cabinet won't push 5string lows all that loud (to my ears).