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Avatar Owner's Club - part 3

Back to gigging quite regularly and having trouble hauling my Dave Eden 410XLT cab. Been looking at going modular for a while and considering matching a SB123 and SB210. The logic is having a choice for smaller gigs and pairing them up for bigger rooms. Anybody running this combo?

I've been running an SB112 Deltlite neo (same as the 123 but without the 6") and a B210 Deltalite neo with a GK MB500 for the past year. I love this rig and constantly get compliments on it. I've heard positive things about the SB123. It should pair up nicely with the 210.

I tend to use the 112 at rehearsals because it's a bit lighter weight and the 210 for small room gigs or where I only need stage volume and I want to travel light. They are both great stand alone cabs.

You'll have no problem hauling these boxes around. 37 and 42 pounds respectively.

BTW, I would recommend springing for the Line-X coating. Amazing bullet proof stuff!

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Forgot to post on the Club page. A couple of months ago I picked up a used 4-ohm B410 Neo with blue tolex from Guitar Center Online. It is a very well built cabinet. It came with one mismatched speaker and the stock speakers look old, but still sounds ok. The mismatched speaker really bothered me because it moves a lot more than the other 3 speakers (It might be an 8 ohm speaker, but not sure). Anyways, I have 4 new ceramic 16-ohm 10's coming for this cab and can't wait to put them in. The folks at Avatar were very helpful as always. Avatar has to be the most underrated speaker cab company on earth!
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Well I put the new speakers in and it sounds great! I will have to say it is a very mid forward sound now. Going from the Neos to ceramic speaker did add alot of weight. I'm not sure how much, but the cab feels like its about 80-100 lbs. Looking inside the cab, I was really impressed. It had some nice insulation and looked really sturdy. All I need to do now is get some casters and I'm all set!
 
I've been playing through a B212 for a while, and it's been great.

I now need a 4 ohm cab, though, and was looking at the B410. I can't tell what the practical difference is between the Delta Pro and the Deltalite II. The cabs have different speakers, but not sure what that means in terms of sound. For what it's worth, I tend to play BEAD, and this will be through '70s 300W tube head that I intend to crank.

Thanks.

B410 DeltaLite II SPECIAL – Avatar Speakers
SPECIAL B410 Delta Pro – Avatar Speakers
 
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I've been playing through a B212 for a while, and it's been great.

I now need a 4 ohm cab, though, and was looking at the B410. I can't tell what the practical difference is between the Delta Pro and the Deltalite II. The cabs have different speakers, but not sure what that means in terms of sound. For what it's worth, I tend to play BEAD, and this will be through '70s 300W tube head that I intend to crank.

Thanks.

B410 DeltaLite II SPECIAL – Avatar Speakers
SPECIAL B410 Delta Pro – Avatar Speakers
I am 99% sure the Pro has ceramic magnets and will be substantially heavier. The Delta-Lite II's are really really good speakers. I have a B210 with them in it and I have pushed them hard for ~12 years with loud drummers. They still sound great.
I can't imagine ever needing more than that B410 DeltaLite II special.
 
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I've been playing through a B212 for a while, and it's been great.

I now need a 4 ohm cab, though, and was looking at the B410. I can't tell what the practical difference is between the Delta Pro and the Deltalite II. The cabs have different speakers, but not sure what that means in terms of sound. For what it's worth, I tend to play BEAD, and this will be through '70s 300W tube head that I intend to crank.

Thanks.

B410 DeltaLite II SPECIAL – Avatar Speakers
SPECIAL B410 Delta Pro – Avatar Speakers


The poster above beat me to it. The Delta Pros appear to have a higher wattage handling capability than the Delta Lites, but you'll pay for it in weight if that's a concern. I have a pair of B210 Delta Lite Neo cabs I run vertically that I'm VERY happy with. I've had 4x10's and 1x15's from various USA manufacturers. Peavey, Hartke, SWR, Ampeg, etc. The Avatars are my favorite of all of them. So much so I sold my other cabs. The price, weight, and sound are very much to my liking.
 
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I've been playing through a B212 for a while, and it's been great.

I now need a 4 ohm cab, though, and was looking at the B410. I can't tell what the practical difference is between the Delta Pro and the Deltalite II. The cabs have different speakers, but not sure what that means in terms of sound. For what it's worth, I tend to play BEAD, and this will be through '70s 300W tube head that I intend to crank.

Thanks.

B410 DeltaLite II SPECIAL – Avatar Speakers
SPECIAL B410 Delta Pro – Avatar Speakers
Mine had the Neo 10s in when I got mine. It sounded good, but the speakers were really old and used hard. They had little folds around the surround where I'm guessing over excursion occurred. I changed mine to the Ceramic Delta Pro speakers and it sounds really nice. I play in D Standard with some songs having to be dropped to C (only on the E string) and the Delta Pros sound great and handle my amps really well. Only downside now is that it's heavy, but kinda manageable.
 
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It's here, and 2nd day UPS! Remember the back ported, Kappa B112 model? This one was understated on GC's site as Good, and it's actually better. If you deal with them, you still want to call the store before purchase. (The GC team packed it like a mummy- and surrounded by tons of material.) Here's the 8 ohm V1 before shipping-front, and back plate from last night. Next, to demo the VT Bass pedal through the Markbass Nano 300 with 4 and 5 string basses.
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Well I put the new speakers in and it sounds great! I will have to say it is a very mid forward sound now. Going from the Neos to ceramic speaker did add alot of weight. I'm not sure how much, but the cab feels like its about 80-100 lbs. Looking inside the cab, I was really impressed. It had some nice insulation and looked really sturdy. All I need to do now is get some casters and I'm all set!

You can see the same cabinet in my...avatar :cool:

In my opinion, the Avatar 4x10 with ceramics is only "mid forward" compared to the usual scooped-out 4x10 sound that's all sizzle and mid-bass. It has nice low end extension, and I think it sounds more like a typical 2x12 or 2x15. Definitely add casters, as they will make your life much easier!
 
I have a pair of B210 Delta Lite Neo cabs I run vertically that I'm VERY happy with. I've had 4x10's and 1x15's from various USA manufacturers. Peavey, Hartke, SWR, Ampeg, etc. The Avatars are my favorite of all of them. So much so I sold my other cabs. The price, weight, and sound are very much to my liking.






Plus 1!!!!!

Bought two Avatar 210 Neo cabinets back in 2008 because I wanted to try a vertical 410 and I wanted to try it as inexpensively as I could.

Prior to 2008 I was gigging with either Amp*g (810 or 410hlf) or Ed*n (210xlt and 212xlt) cabinets.
Sold em off after I started working with the Avatars.

A couple of years back I stumbled into a used Berg*ntino NV610 cabinet.
Used it for our big stage, outdoors jobs.
Liked it VERY much but, I and the band preferred what the Avatar vertical 410 gave on stage!

Recently sold the 610 and the Avatars are it!
Using one cab for small jobs/rehearsals, both cabs when more volume and coverage are needed.
 
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You can see the same cabinet in my...avatar :cool:

In my opinion, the Avatar 4x10 with ceramics is only "mid forward" compared to the usual scooped-out 4x10 sound that's all sizzle and mid-bass. It has nice low end extension, and I think it sounds more like a typical 2x12 or 2x15. Definitely add casters, as they will make your life much easier!
Yeah I ended up getting rid of it. I really didn't need a 4x10, plus my band uses IEMs anyways. I still miss it sometimes, but not carrying it around!
 
I have an Avatar B212 that I bought used, blonde Rolex, 4 Ohm.

I can't seem to find specs on it anywhere, except a Chicago Music ad for one that mentioned it's 300 watts - but I used to own a 4 Ohm B112 that I seem to recall was 250 watts.

These are non-Neo speakers.

Can anyone shed some light on how many watts this is?