B7KUltra vs. Vintage Ultra

[HiEnd Basses]

Can anyone describe the difference between these two pedals. I'd like to purchase one of them, and I can use it as a clean preamp also.

 

[FaithNoMan]

The Vintage Ultra is definitely inherently more "middy" whereas the B7K Ultra is inherently more hi-mid oriented. They overlap quite a bit, though.

I wound up getting the Vintage Ultra and sending it back simply because I like insane levels of clank. But it really s a terrific preamp that can cop all the good SVT bass tones and well beyond them.

 

[jsper]

The Ultra models kind of blur the lines of distinction between the B7K and Vintage Deluxe. Whereas the B7K and Deluxe models lo and hi mids knobs affect different frequencies, you can now toggle the lo and hi mid frequencies on the ultra model, so the Vintage can do B7K mids and the B7K can do Vintage mids. The biggest difference between the two models now is the overdrive tone. The Vintage has a warmer, somewhat milder overdrive whereas the B7K has a grittier, sharper more scooped overdrive tone. The ultra models have the Distortion switch so you can completely remove the overdrive from the signal, so you can use either as a clean preamp.

 

[gregmon79]

The vintage is more vintage, the B7K is more modern. But both are versatile as hell. The mids response is probably the biggest difference. The vintage is more warm so to speak. The B7K is more aggressive and clanky for the most part. But they both can do a lot. But to me, those are the biggest differences. Like faith said. The mids are the biggest difference.

 

[jsper]

I used the B7K for a few years but I recently sold it because I picked up the Vintage Ultra. I felt like the flavor of overdrive suited my needs better, and I play pretty heavy rock music, so it's certainly no slouch in the overdrive department

 

[monsterthompson]

Plenty on online demo videos for the B7K and VMTD pedals. That's a good starting point for getting a difference in the sounds.

 

[Crystalman85]

Can anyone describe the difference between these two pedals. I'd like to purchase one of them, and I can use it as a clean preamp also.

Yes you can use them as clean preamps. these pedals have a clean channel and a distortion channel. as everyone stated, the b7k ultra has a modern sound while the vintage ultra has a vintage sound(like the name says of course). depending on what kind of music you play, these totally awesome pedals from darkglass has a wide range of sound. if you want a smooth modern bass sound, the b7k ultra would be right up your alley. but if you want more of a warm retro sound, the vintage ultra would be a good choice for that.

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

Anyone use this with guitar - post pedal/amp sim chain into a cab sim with balanced xlr di output?

 

[Nephilymbass]

I have the b7k ultra. I think it's great for modern rock and metal. Personally the only way I can see myself selling my b7k ultra is if I say screw it and get the darkglass 900 which gives you the b7k and vintage on top of a nice clean channel.

To be picky. I'm not a fan of running my darkglass b7k ultra as a DI. I prefer my fuzz (darkglass duality) after the b7k ultra and with the dirt switch on my b7k ultra off I think my clean sound is a little too dry sounding. So I run my board into a sans amp RBI.

I keep the b7k ultra on all the time. Dirt switch off when I want a clean tone, dirt switch on when our guitar player is playing dirty power chord type stuff and when I want to get crazy I run the b7k ultra on for the eq but dirt switch off into my darkglass duality fuzz which I mainly use when our guitarist is playing more lead type parts but also In couple songs just for some variety.

 

[Darkglass]

This video might help!

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[Zoot H Rollo]

Why are most all of the video demos overdriven?

I personally can't see any use for this product line if that's all it is known for.

 

[NoxNoctus]

Why are most all of the video demos overdriven?

I personally can't see any use for this product line if that's all it is known for.

Are you asking why people are demoing the overdrive on a primarily purpose-built drive preamp pedal?

Speaking of which, I want video demos of tuner pedals to start including how they sound in a band mix.

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

My tuner is fairly transparent in a mix.

I can post a clip.

I assumed the B7K could do more than just overdrive.

Apparently i was mistaken.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Moving on.

 

[CoarseBass]

Hoooooo boy.

 

[Darkglass]

This demo is a lot more comprehensive and shows a wider variety of tones (including cleaner characters).

 

[zwkoch]

My tuner is fairly transparent in a mix.

I can post a clip.

I assumed the B7K could do more than just overdrive.

Apparently i was mistaken.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Moving on.

I used the B7K as my clean preamp for years. It excels in this capacity. The VMT also fills this need without complaint. I preferred the B7K tone ultimately, but both are solid preamp choices.

 

[HiEnd Basses]

Hold the phone! Darkglass just came out with the Alpha-Omega!

 

[FaithNoMan]

As usual, Doug delivers.

 

[Dave W]

I assumed the B7K could do more than just overdrive

It certainly can. Darkglass in general is just very well known for its dirt tones.

In addition to mainly running my M900 amp clean 85% of the time, I'll use either the B7KU or VMTU as a clean preamp for some of my smaller gigs.

 

[John D Harris]

Didn't want to start a new thread, so I'm hoping to get a response here.

How is the quality & practical usability of the DI in the Vintage Ultra?

Seems like I saw someone having problems getting the volume of the DI to a usable level while getting a good on-stage level.

Any experience with both DI & running through a regular bass rig on-stage would be helpful - thanks!