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Backing/click track cover band support group needed

Discussion in 'Bass Humor & Gig Stories [BG]' started by Marley's Ghost, Jun 25, 2017.


  1. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    I should preface this by stating that I love my band and my bandmates. We get along great and have so much fun playing out. We are a trio that covers a huge swath of material, and our fans love us. But there's that awkward 10-45 seconds between songs when the next track is being queued up. The dancers look at us quizzically. Same song = same arrangement every time. The occasional technical difficulty. Forget medleys or mashups. Yes, the struggle is real.
     
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  2. filmtex

    filmtex

    May 29, 2011
    Maybe it's just me, but, what exactly is the purpose of your post? Is there a question there? Or perhaps you're taking a stance about something? Maybe even asking for advice. Sorry, but I just don't get it.
     
  3. hondo4life

    hondo4life

    Feb 29, 2016
    SC
    You could hand out carrots between songs to keep the people busy and distracted.
     
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  4. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    This is the bass/band humor forum, no? So some snarky responses or good natured grousing could work.
     
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  5. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL

    Hopefully it's just you.
     
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  6. filmtex

    filmtex

    May 29, 2011
    Phwew. Glad it's just me.
     
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  7. Nashrakh

    Nashrakh

    Aug 16, 2008
    Hamburg, Germany
    I don't really get it either... Why the dead air in the first place? I thought bands with backing tracks assemble some sort of "playlist" to prevent that.
     
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  8. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    We get requests so rarely play a contiguous set per the list.
     
  9. 6Bass101

    6Bass101

    Apr 2, 2016
    Fort Mill, SC
    Well I guess that's a fair trade off. The "price" for requests is the occasional awkward silence. As a fan or audience member, I'd be cool with that.
     
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  10. Nashrakh

    Nashrakh

    Aug 16, 2008
    Hamburg, Germany
    Okay, I understand then. But maybe that's the problem - or it does pose a dilemma at least.

    Come up with some kind of filler music is what I would try. Something you can play while the frontman (or whoever is responsible) gets the tracks ready.
     
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  11. Oddly

    Oddly Unofficial TalkBass Cartographer! Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2014
    Dublin, Ireland.
    Your awkward 10-45 seconds sounds a lot like the one I've read about here involving guitarists tuning.
    My solution to that involved shooting the guilty party but perhaps that's a bit extreme?
    Maybe you could incorporate a game of bingo into your show, having one of you call out numbers while someone else gets the next tune queued up?
    Or have the person who's requesting the next tune come up on stage and explain their choice?
     
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  12. fishstix

    fishstix

    Feb 28, 2006
    Wisconsin
    The band I subbed with this weekend used backing tracks that ran from an app on an iPad. I can't say that I noticed a lag between songs and they did medleys/mashups. They did have fillers planned out on the set list as well though: planned dialogue, prize giveaways, solo spotlights for various members, etc. However, whatever app they were using was pretty slick at cuing up songs and was run by the drummer/band leader. He was the only one with the click track in the monitor mix and as far as I could tell any perceived extra time was a four count at most for him to hear the click and off we went but most often the transitions were filled as mentioned earlier.
     
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  13. Pirate Captain

    Pirate Captain Elitist Jazz Snob ******** Supporting Member

    Dec 22, 2016
    Shelter Island, NY USA
    fire the backing track
     
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  14. There should always be a sliding protocol for requests. Depending on the number os musicians, lets say for argument, its 5 for this protocal
    If the requester adds $10 or less with the request- maybe next set, maybe the last set
    $10-$20 maybe in a few songs if the song fits in.
    Between $50- $100- it'll be the next song.
    $100 and up, you stop the current song dead in its tracks and kick into the request.
    If its a Kiss song, minimum $500.
    If its the guy with nights band check, it's next.
     
  15. Could someone give me an example of a band with a 'backing track'?

    I'm not being snarky or sarcastic, I am really curious.
    In my mind's eye, I'm seeing Milli Vanilli .......
     
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  16. makaspar

    makaspar Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2009
    Austin, TX
    It usually more of just extra keyboards and some background vocals. Maybe a rhythm guitar or something if you are a 1 guitar band. At least in my band's case.

    Solution - get a better backing track program, stick with the set list, and kill the requests unless you can get quicker at loading the track.
     
  17. So I guess this makes you better musicians, since your timing has to perfect to avoid a train-wreck .... interesting ......
     
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  18. Record your backing tracks in 3 or 4 song segments. This takes away some of the down time and still allows you the ability to reasonably take request.

    On a side note since you're noticing the dancers looking at you quizzically, congrats on the eye contact (as per another thread)!
     
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  19. gln1955

    gln1955 Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Ohio, USA
    45 seconds is just unacceptable especially for a dance band. If you need backing tracks for every song, maybe what you really need is another band member or two.
     
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  20. makaspar

    makaspar Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2009
    Austin, TX
    There's a click in one channel, music in the other, and we use in-ears to stay with the click. We just have to know our parts really well.

    Regarding train-wrecks - our drummer is good enough to turn off the track when that happens, and then we can finish the song. Can't say it happens too much.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2017
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