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Baer Amplification Megathread!

It's the 800--Dave's newest creation. I've never played a TFunk prior to getting this at work Friday and bringing it straight to the gig, so I was curious and as objective as possible. Here's my tip of the iceberg impression: it was everything I love about my Puma and my Aguilar AG-500 in one, but with headroom to burn. I can tell it will be its own thing when I get more flight time with it.

This rig kills.

Set flat in the pretty neutral room we were in, it was heaven. Roger's secret sauce yields a cabinet with no hiss/air harshness, so the rig was thick and punchy and crystal clear with huge low end solidity all the way down to open B. Me and the drummer were smiling like kids on Christmas. Both basses I played that night, along with each of my pedals, showed well. It sounded like big iron should (but the whole thing weighs about 95 pounds). I felt large and in charge of the whole room, without PA support. As usual, the ML cabs put everything right in that sweetspot between the thud of the bass drum and the sizzle of the cymbals.

Add a touch of dirt, back off the passive tone, roll to the neck, and it's an 800 watt B-15. Go the other direction, and it's an Acoustic 360 through an 8x10. Either way, the G string always sounds thick and rich...a sibling of the other 4 strings, not an anemic cousin. Of the 4 amps I've put through this 2 x ML112 stack, this one has the most flexibility and gets me closest to my tone goals. It sounds absolutely massive with tons of headroom, zero breakup, and no low end compression. Of course, a major MAJOR portion of my happiness with this rig is the ML112s. They just sound so great on stage. In my 20+ years as a professional bassist, I've never come across a cabinet that hits me where I live like 2 ML112s do.

I used to run a Millennia TD-1 through a Bergantino IP112 + HT112ER. That was my previous best rig ever, and it is a true masterpiece of amp/speaker design. This rig is in that tone zone, but it's lighter, less expensive, easier to carry, and has the flexibility (and peace of mind) of NOT having a built in power section. IMHO, YMMV, and all that.

Baer + Thunderfunk = :bassist:
 
Well gents, I have to do a little gushing.

I just took a prototype of a new Baer 15/6 box out for a spin on a real world gig. Holy Moly and Woof! I think this box is going to make some noise. It sounded great at lower volume earlier in the evening, then when it got loud the box killed.

As Roger explained it, he got a few "new" 15's from Eminence. The box is similar looking to the ML112, but obviously a bit bigger. Two triangle ports at the bottom and the 6in on top.

My main memory of 15 boxes were my old Dual Showman,
B15-N, Sunn Colosseum, Kustom and Bag End small single 15 box with the big port in the back. This box is NOTHING like those. I wouldn't really call it modern. It lies somewhere in between. For instance, I could get a very usable slap tone.
The box is right at 50lbs. Roger thinks the finished product should be a little lighter.

The sound man said it was the biggest most supportive sounding box I've ever brought on the gig. He loved it. One thing I really enjoyed about the box was as I played higher and higher up on the neck, the sound didn't get thinner. It was dark and warm but also FAT FAT FAT. It was a treat soloing with a sledgehammer sound in the top of the bass.
The power handling was also quite impressive. My Epi UL310 is one of my all time favorite boxes. This 15/6 had a somewhat similar high end with a bigger, deeper low end, and volume for days. At one point I decided to really push the box just to see if I could make it cry. Not a chance. This thing can take some wattage.

Roger still has to do some tweaks on the box, but if this is only the first one, I think Baer has a total winner. And don't get me started about using a pick!
 
What amp did you use and what style of music did the gig call for?


Well gents, I have to do a little gushing.

I just took a prototype of a new Baer 15/6 box out for a spin on a real world gig. Holy Moly and Woof! I think this box is going to make some noise. It sounded great at lower volume earlier in the evening, then when it got loud the box killed.

As Roger explained it, he got a few "new" 15's from Eminence. The box is similar looking to the ML112, but obviously a bit bigger. Two triangle ports at the bottom and the 6in on top.

My main memory of 15 boxes were my old Dual Showman,
B15-N, Sunn Colosseum, Kustom and Bag End small single 15 box with the big port in the back. This box is NOTHING like those. I wouldn't really call it modern. It lies somewhere in between. For instance, I could get a very usable slap tone.
The box is right at 50lbs. Roger thinks the finished product should be a little lighter.

The sound man said it was the biggest most supportive sounding box I've ever brought on the gig. He loved it. One thing I really enjoyed about the box was as I played higher and higher up on the neck, the sound didn't get thinner. It was dark and warm but also FAT FAT FAT. It was a treat soloing with a sledgehammer sound in the top of the bass.
The power handling was also quite impressive. My Epi UL310 is one of my all time favorite boxes. This 15/6 had a somewhat similar high end with a bigger, deeper low end, and volume for days. At one point I decided to really push the box just to see if I could make it cry. Not a chance. This thing can take some wattage.

Roger still has to do some tweaks on the box, but if this is only the first one, I think Baer has a total winner. And don't get me started about using a pick!
 
Well gents, I have to do a little gushing.

I just took a prototype of a new Baer 15/6 box out for a spin on a real world gig. Holy Moly and Woof! I think this box is going to make some noise. It sounded great at lower volume earlier in the evening, then when it got loud the box killed.

As Roger explained it, he got a few "new" 15's from Eminence. The box is similar looking to the ML112, but obviously a bit bigger. Two triangle ports at the bottom and the 6in on top.

My main memory of 15 boxes were my old Dual Showman,
B15-N, Sunn Colosseum, Kustom and Bag End small single 15 box with the big port in the back. This box is NOTHING like those. I wouldn't really call it modern. It lies somewhere in between. For instance, I could get a very usable slap tone.
The box is right at 50lbs. Roger thinks the finished product should be a little lighter.

The sound man said it was the biggest most supportive sounding box I've ever brought on the gig. He loved it. One thing I really enjoyed about the box was as I played higher and higher up on the neck, the sound didn't get thinner. It was dark and warm but also FAT FAT FAT. It was a treat soloing with a sledgehammer sound in the top of the bass.
The power handling was also quite impressive. My Epi UL310 is one of my all time favorite boxes. This 15/6 had a somewhat similar high end with a bigger, deeper low end, and volume for days. At one point I decided to really push the box just to see if I could make it cry. Not a chance. This thing can take some wattage.

Roger still has to do some tweaks on the box, but if this is only the first one, I think Baer has a total winner. And don't get me started about using a pick!

Sounds lovely...wonder if I should consider selling my ML-112's
 
Well gents, I have to do a little gushing.

I just took a prototype of a new Baer 15/6 box out for a spin on a real world gig. Holy Moly and Woof! I think this box is going to make some noise. It sounded great at lower volume earlier in the evening, then when it got loud the box killed.

As Roger explained it, he got a few "new" 15's from Eminence. The box is similar looking to the ML112, but obviously a bit bigger. Two triangle ports at the bottom and the 6in on top.

My main memory of 15 boxes were my old Dual Showman,
B15-N, Sunn Colosseum, Kustom and Bag End small single 15 box with the big port in the back. This box is NOTHING like those. I wouldn't really call it modern. It lies somewhere in between. For instance, I could get a very usable slap tone.
The box is right at 50lbs. Roger thinks the finished product should be a little lighter.

The sound man said it was the biggest most supportive sounding box I've ever brought on the gig. He loved it. One thing I really enjoyed about the box was as I played higher and higher up on the neck, the sound didn't get thinner. It was dark and warm but also FAT FAT FAT. It was a treat soloing with a sledgehammer sound in the top of the bass.
The power handling was also quite impressive. My Epi UL310 is one of my all time favorite boxes. This 15/6 had a somewhat similar high end with a bigger, deeper low end, and volume for days. At one point I decided to really push the box just to see if I could make it cry. Not a chance. This thing can take some wattage.

Roger still has to do some tweaks on the box, but if this is only the first one, I think Baer has a total winner. And don't get me started about using a pick!

Ohhhh GAAASSSSS!

This is the one I'm waiting on. I had been thinking about picking up a 15 as a smaller and lighter alternative to my 410, and I will be patiently awaiting the "All Clear" to place an order for one of these!:help:
 
What amp did you use and what style of music did the gig call for?

Wow! its every little thing with you isn't it?!?! Noooo...
Actually I forgot to add that info.
I checked it out for a little while at home with an Aguilar TH500, an Eden WT400 and a Markbass F500. Sort of ends and middle of the spectrum. Since my memory of 15 cabs was big and punchy, but not quick and articulate. So to be safe I brought the F500, the quickest and easily eq'd amp of the three. The eq settings on the gig were pretty near flat.
Bass was an 05 Fender mia deluxe J V, with nickle rounds.


The room was big with about 450 people. I was NOT in the PA!
I was the ONLY thing not in the PA. Band was drums, guitar, bass, percussion, piano, and two horns. We were playing soft Pop early, then much louder Rock & Pop.
Some of my older experiences with Markbass amps was a little frustrating because of the built in limiting I experienced with the LMII. The F500 seems not to suffer from that amplifier illness. I was pushing the amp pretty well, but I wasn't at the end of what it could put through the 8ohm box.
 
Wow! its every little thing with you isn't it?!?! Noooo...
Actually I forgot to add that info.
I checked it out for a little while at home with an Aguilar TH500, an Eden WT400 and a Markbass F500. Sort of ends and middle of the spectrum. Since my memory of 15 cabs was big and punchy, but not quick and articulate. So to be safe I brought the F500, the quickest and easily eq'd amp of the three. The eq settings on the gig were pretty near flat.
Bass was an 05 Fender mia deluxe J V, with nickle rounds.


The room was big with about 450 people. I was NOT in the PA!
I was the ONLY thing not in the PA. Band was drums, guitar, bass, percussion, piano, and two horns. We were playing soft Pop early, then much louder Rock & Pop.
Some of my older experiences with Markbass amps was a little frustrating because of the built in limiting I experienced with the LMII. The F500 seems not to suffer from that amplifier illness. I was pushing the amp pretty well, but I wasn't at the end of what it could put through the 8ohm box.

What was the ambient temperature of the...... Oh never mind!:p

Aside from the sound guy, anyone else give you any feedback out in the audience? That sounds like a pretty loud gig and with no PA support, that's pretty cool if you were well-heard out in the audience above the FOH.
 
Wonder if that custom Eminence 15 sits between the Kappalite 3015 and 3015LF the way the current custom 12 sits between the 3012HO and 3012LF? That would be nice. I think 500 watts into 8 ohms from one of several good contenders would really make this thunder. Also would like to know if the ML115 tuning would make it compatible and play nice with the ML112?