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Baer Amplification Megathread!

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FWIW, the Zon 519 I used in that clip is technically a jazz bass... and I'm playing it with my fingers.

Obviously, there's differences between it and a Fender Jazz, but the pickups are in traditional 60's spacing.

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#1,902
Addison said:
FWIW, the Zon 519 I used in that clip is technically a jazz bass... and I'm playing it with my fingers.

Obviously, there's differences between it and a Fender Jazz, but the pickups are in traditional 60's spacing.

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I assume those are barts, which have some nice midrange focus. That, combined with the 60's spacing, which is a smidge less scooped than the 70's single coils J I use, can sound VERY nice through a Streamliner with the right cab, and you have the right cab:bassist:
 
#1,908
Addison said:
Hey fellas...

I shot this quick and dirty video this morning on my iPhone of me playing my Zon 519 through the Streamliner 900 and into the Baer.

The MB BB750 is just there to look purty. :D

Anyway, I keep reading comments about how the Streamliner sounds woolly without a lot of mids and that is has a tame high end without any growl... and, I dunno if mine is special, but I get that stuff in spades. Unless I'm not understanding other people's definition of those terms, which is very possible.

In this video, my bass is completely flat... and, other than a very slight cut in mids and a very slight boost in treble, the Streamliner is also pretty flat. I zoom in on the settings so they can be seen better.

This is just an iPhone video, so it doesn't really capture the massively thick low and low-mid thing happening either... but I thought it might give anyone interested a general idea of what I'm experiencing and why I'm so happy. Tone is obviously a completely subjective thing... but this is one particular type of tone that makes me happy. :)

Also, if you change the video settings to a higher resolution, the sound will get better too.

Oh, and forgive my hack playing too... I was in my underwear and had only taken a couple of sips of coffee. :D

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Dang! The highs coming out of that sounds superb. I would not have guessed there was no tweeter. Very cool clip, nice chops too! Dare I say, at times, that sound would be a bit too modern and clean for my current needs. But other times I want that level of articulation. Still, being a Streamliner with a cab with no tweeter, the clarity is shockingly superb!
 
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Saluki said:
Gary,

Geez just get out your check book. We have had many of the same rigs and I can say you will love the ML112. Might be my favorite cab to date!
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yeah I know, Been waiting on some bonus $$ due after Feb 1st. Had too many $$ obligations until now to make any moves. But in the meantime, I've enjoyed reading the reviews and hearing about others experiences. Simply validates what a great cab it is. I have a feeling a single ML112 will get the lion's share of my gigs done.
 
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GRoberts said:
Dang! The highs coming out of that sounds superb. I would not have guessed there was no tweeter. Very cool clip, nice chops too! Dare I say, at times, that sound would be a bit too modern and clean for my current needs. But other times I want that level of articulation. Still, being a Streamliner with a cab with no tweeter, the clarity is shockingly superb!
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One thing to note is that my Zon has a pretty distinct high end to it, even when set completely flat... so, you can chalk a considerable amount of what you're hearing to the tone of the bass itself.

Also... with the way these mid-drivers work, that high-end you're hearing blends with the band much, much more musically than any tweeter I've ever heard. It's hard to tell by itself and on an iPhone recording, but trust me... EVERYONE in the band (including myself) were blown away by this rig on Saturday night. We were all floored.

I have an active fretless Zon, active Mike Lull MV5, passive CS Fender Jazz, passive USA Fender P/J, and a Ric 4003... I'm tempted to do a single clip with all of them, one after another... it's a pretty broad range and would give those interested a nice sampling to listen to.
 
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Addison said:
One thing to note is that my Zon has a pretty distinct high end to it, even when set completely flat... so, you can chalk a considerable amount of what you're hearing to the tone of the bass itself.

Also... with the way these mid-drivers work, that high-end you're hearing blends with the band much, much more musically than any tweeter I've ever heard. It's hard to tell by itself and on an iPhone recording, but trust me... EVERYONE in the band (including myself) were blown away by this rig on Saturday night. We were all floored.

I have an active fretless Zon, active Mike Lull MV5, passive CS Fender Jazz, passive USA Fender P/J, and a Ric 4003... I'm tempted to do a single clip with all of them, one after another... it's a pretty broad range and would give those interested a nice sampling to listen to.
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DO IT!!!!!
 
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Addison said:
Hey fellas...

I shot this quick and dirty video this morning on my iPhone of me playing my Zon 519 through the Streamliner 900 and into the Baer.

The MB BB750 is just there to look purty. :D

Anyway, I keep reading comments about how the Streamliner sounds woolly without a lot of mids and that is has a tame high end without any growl... and, I dunno if mine is special, but I get that stuff in spades. Unless I'm not understanding other people's definition of those terms, which is very possible.

In this video, my bass is completely flat... and, other than a very slight cut in mids and a very slight boost in treble, the Streamliner is also pretty flat. I zoom in on the settings so they can be seen better.

This is just an iPhone video, so it doesn't really capture the massively thick low and low-mid thing happening either... but I thought it might give anyone interested a general idea of what I'm experiencing and why I'm so happy. Tone is obviously a completely subjective thing... but this is one particular type of tone that makes me happy. :)

Also, if you change the video settings to a higher resolution, the sound will get better too.

Oh, and forgive my hack playing too... I was in my underwear and had only taken a couple of sips of coffee. :D

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Finally got to listen with Phones and wow! That strikes me as an extremely accurate and clear reproduction of that bass, with just a touch of Streamliner flavoring thrown in. The clarity is wonderful! Nice job playing.

As a Streamliner owner, I would love to hear some fingerstyle, perhaps without the overdrive button being on.

Thanks again for the clip. Ken's no doubt accurate verbal description already was inducing a Pavlovian response from me! Your clip is only making things MUCH worse! :help:
 
#1,920
Well, I've been getting emails asking about the clips of the Baer I had up when I was doing all the gear review video's. I actually still had copies of the Baer ML112 video's I did a while back, so I basically opened a Youtube account again to quickly post them back up.

The sound quality is quite good (used my Zoom high quality video recorder), so if you have good phones, these clips might be helpful as another data point.

Clips are recorded at 'moderate gig levels', with the mics about 10 feet from the cab and about 30 degrees off axis.

Clip 1: Nordstrand VP5 (modern voiced ash/maple 5 string passive P Bass with broken in Dunlop Nickel Wounds) through the Streamliner (representative of the 'fat and tubey side of amp voicings) and the Markbass F500 (representative of the more neutral SS side of amp voicings). I unfortunately didn't do a great job gain matching (I record these clips in real time with very little prep, so a bit rough sometimes:p), so don't overinterpret that difference in volume and fatness between the two heads.

Clip 2: Alleva-Coppolo LM5 (ash/maple 70's style J with single coils, broken in Hi Beams) with the F500. Killer combination (just like the Streamliner with the P).

Clip 3: A-C again with the F500, this time comparing the ML112 to the Berg AE210, to give the listener a feel for the difference between the mid driver versus a very well executed but more traditional tweeter loaded cab.


(Clip links in post below)
 

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