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Bass cables different than guitar cables?

As a student of all sortsa different cables (for many years) my thoughts on instrument cables runs along the lines of use cable with a higher percentage of copper, the highest percentage of braid coverage, quality jacks, play and be happy. For several decades I was a Belden cable & Whirlwind jacks. Now of course I am partial to a different jack.

Another selection of critical nature is the jacket color. For my wife and her guitar it is light blue to match the guitar or on rare occasion when the case is by the guitar it must be tweed to match the case.

As for Monster I shall quote my departed Grandmother "Sounds like stuff and nonsense" the closest she ever came to swearing.
A little off-topic, but I have been frustrated at the lack of quality in cables I've purchased recently. I used to sell pro audio gear for a living, but a lot has changed since those days. There is no way I would ever purchase something like a Monster cable. Even if I could notice a difference in sound, for live applications any quality boost would be negligible to the audience. So I don't buy high end cables, ever, but what's leftover seems to be pretty awful. I have a bag of busted cables here that each got maybe a dozen uses, whereas back in the 80's we'd use the same cables for years, soldering one every now and then.

If anyone wants to send me (via PM) a recommendation for a decent brand that is both reliable and not hugely budget-busting, that would be welcome.
 
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Old enough to remember in the 80s when audiophiles fervently believed their hi-fis weren't truly hi-fi without 10-gauge, gold-tipped speaker cables.

You're talking like this has changed. :> I now use 14- or 12-gauge and I get it by buying heavy duty extension cord and cutting the ends off. If you buy the stuff for outdoor use you can sometimes get it in green or blue.

Thing is, monster stuff is very good quality...

Disagree. Monster stuff is average quality but with Very Thick Rubber around the same-old-cheap cable and Very Clunky[TM] cheap electro-plated connectors. I occasionally end up with one because it's the only "average quality" cable on a wall of "fall apart before you get it home" cables. This is how they survive. Because the average consumer looks at nothing but cost, and those that do want quality look at nothing but "look how thick that cable is".
 
Disagree. Monster stuff is average quality but with Very Thick Rubber around the same-old-cheap cable and Very Clunky[TM] cheap electro-plated connectors. I occasionally end up with one because it's the only "average quality" cable on a wall of "fall apart before you get it home" cables. This is how they survive. Because the average consumer looks at nothing but cost, and those that do want quality look at nothing but "look how thick that cable is".

Yea, seems that might be so for some of their products. The speaker cable I in inherited is ancient - probably some of their earlier product, and is very good. I guess maybe they built their name initially on quality product then started skimping out on crap later?

anyhow - I won't be buying it LoL
 
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It takes a lot of power to move bass, so you need a strong conduit to transport it obviously. If you use a guitar lead for a while, pick it up and feel how warm it is. That's because it hasn't got the gauge for bass. If you were to continue, you'll notice it will begin to melt.
 
Buy a good cable and two spares, you're good to go.
(You can sell one of em to your guitarist right before go time....for a somewhat kinda sorta modest profit margin when he forgets his...again... ;) )

As long as you stay away from the discount yellow shrink end cables piled on the terlet plunger looking display right at the GC counter or the like, you should be good to go...

Also, the outside shell of a cable bears no indication of cross sectional area of the copper inside... Terlet plunger cables are dirt cheap because there ain't much conductor in em...

Just buy quality....not magic pixie dust infused one way conduction cosmic ray tested cables...

Old Fart Alert: I still have two of the first O2 free cables from later 70s or early 80s, still play through one every day (they had the copper braid shield from hell with the clear see thru bonded shell... I also have two of the fat brown big brass end cables from same time (had the tiny micro switches). All work perfectly still.... Occasionally take a 3M synthetic 0000 steel wool to the ends a bit to keep clean of oxidation. I played full time 50/52wks/yr 4-6 nights/wk way back in the club glory days. They have seen a LOT of use.

A biggee - ||: Over | Under | Over | Under :|| d.c. al FOREVER... coil em right, secure appropriately after playing, and you won't replace em....
 
A little off-topic, but I have been frustrated at the lack of quality in cables I've purchased recently. I used to sell pro audio gear for a living, but a lot has changed since those days. There is no way I would ever purchase something like a Monster cable. Even if I could notice a difference in sound, for live applications any quality boost would be negligible to the audience. So I don't buy high end cables, ever, but what's leftover seems to be pretty awful. I have a bag of busted cables here that each got maybe a dozen uses, whereas back in the 80's we'd use the same cables for years, soldering one every now and then.

If anyone wants to send me (via PM) a recommendation for a decent brand that is both reliable and not hugely budget-busting, that would be welcome.
I read the whole thread. That's how bored I am. I was hoping someone with a Double E or physics degree could walk me through how a guitar cable could be "voiced" for anything. There are differences in conductance, hysteresis, various other waveform mechanical losses due to material composition/quality and length of the wire, solder material, etc. But the only improvement a guitar cable can claim is that it is consistently built to minimize loss.
 
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Old Fart Alert: I still have two of the first O2 free cables from later 70s or early 80s, still play through one every day (they had the copper braid shield from hell with the clear see thru bonded shell...

I remember those cables! Had black anodized barrels on the plugs, didn't they? Our guitarist bought one sometime in the mid-80s. He was so proud of it at the first gig he used it... until the cold-solder joint on one end failed... right in the middle of his duckwalk and solo in "Johnny B. Goode". In all honesty, they were great quality cables. I fixed his after the gig. The jacket was damn near bulletproof.
 
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