Wow, I guess it's been a long time since I looked at their lineup! That thing looks sweet.
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Bass DI questions
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What’s throwing me is switch “J” which , when engaged / per manual, provides “post Clean channel EQ only-output”.
Riis
If you are trying to replicate the sound of “running a dry bass rig and a dirty guitar amp” with a preamp, your ear is probably going to respond best to a frequency-responsive distortion. There are a few distortions out there that allow you to choose which frequencies are specifically distorted, from Darkglass and others.
It’s the sum of a guitar amp that isn’t getting most of the low frequencies and a full bass tone with no distortion that you hear regularly with your dual rig.
Honestly, just buy a Damnation Audio MB3 and stop all this insanity!!!!!
But seriously, the only tricky part here is that you usually hear a discreet clean low signal , and two discreet mid/high-mid/treble signals.
I would say the best way to do this is just use a simple signal splitter (Old Blood Noise Endeavors, and others) into 1: a bass pre that you like with a balanced XLR out, and 2: into a high-pass filter to roll off the lows and then a distortion of your choice, OR 2: into a distortion that allows you to choose the frequencies that are distorted with a balanced XLR out, and send those two channels to the house. Your fly rig is a small pedalboard.
The only problem the second 2: is that when mixing them together, FOH will always have double the clean bass (summed clean low freqs from your 1 & 2) so, a high-pass filter may be the way to go.
Sorry if this has all been said, TLDR.
It’s the sum of a guitar amp that isn’t getting most of the low frequencies and a full bass tone with no distortion that you hear regularly with your dual rig.
Honestly, just buy a Damnation Audio MB3 and stop all this insanity!!!!!
But seriously, the only tricky part here is that you usually hear a discreet clean low signal , and two discreet mid/high-mid/treble signals.
I would say the best way to do this is just use a simple signal splitter (Old Blood Noise Endeavors, and others) into 1: a bass pre that you like with a balanced XLR out, and 2: into a high-pass filter to roll off the lows and then a distortion of your choice, OR 2: into a distortion that allows you to choose the frequencies that are distorted with a balanced XLR out, and send those two channels to the house. Your fly rig is a small pedalboard.
The only problem the second 2: is that when mixing them together, FOH will always have double the clean bass (summed clean low freqs from your 1 & 2) so, a high-pass filter may be the way to go.
Sorry if this has all been said, TLDR.
Here is what the OM says:
J1 is consistent with how I interpret the block diagram.
I think the wording is inaccurate/misleading for J2. Per the block diagram, when engaged in the Post position, the second DI is essentially a duplicate of the other output. It's not "post Clean channel only." It's post whatever you have selected.
If you have stereo engaged and are using a stereo effects processor, it's post whatever you have selected processed through the right channel of the effects unit. You have mono going into the effects processor and stereo coming back into the return.
It's possible the block diagram is wrong or incomplete. It's also possible I am misreading it.
I got the shameless copy of the Simplifier Bass Station -- because I want something completely analog. It works fine -- no noise or issues and I have it for over a year now. It looks like the price went up 20 bucks. Also even though I have a Radial and a Warm DI, I have no issues with Behringer passive DIs. Use 1 straight out of the bass and the other one after you effects chain. Send both to FOH, DAW or 2 amps
There’s a pedal out there (if you can find it) called the Brimestone crossover distortion that splits a signal in two at an adjustable crossover point and feeds two preamps with separate tone shaping and gain, then recombines them. It’s the best thing I’ve ever used for this. It totally sounds like two amps. I sold mine because I joined a reggae band and I’m an idiot. If you ever find one buy it. Or message me and I’ll buy it.
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Ive never touched that button, but I will give it a go over the weekend, just so we can clarify things.
Is that the only application?
When was the last time you needed a backup?
What makes you think you will ever fly to a gig?
No reason to waste money on a solution to a problem you may not have.
My thoughts, as well. The MB3, if it functions as spec'd, is a great pedal and I would have no problems using it as a first call / stand-alone pedal OR as the keystone in a more complex pedal array.
Riis
I got mine as im hoping to not need a bass rig for too many gigs. This will cover all of my gigs regardless if im going direct to FOH or using a rig.
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Ignore that post.
Bass players have taken back ups like BDDI's for decades, you cant predict when your gear will stop working. Better to be safe than sorry.
And trust me, the Flyrig is not just for those that fly, thats the funniest thing ive read for ages. It's for those that need to travel light, be it plane train or automobile.
I think the overthinking part is having two XLR outs. Most preamp DI's will have some from of direct out as well as effected tone out.
Just a quick follow up. The Microbass 3 can definitly output the drive channel using the post XLR, and the second XLR can output the either totally unaffected, or the clean channel with EQ depending on the switch setting. In fact you can turn the drive on and off with the footswtich and you wont get it coming out of the second XLR.
So yeah, as suggested, the Microbass 3 can do what was asked in the first post.
So yeah, as suggested, the Microbass 3 can do what was asked in the first post.
I’m looking for someone who can point me in this direction;
I need a DI that can do saturation when pushed but that it also has an HPF (variable or fixed) hopefully 24dB/octave
Or maybe try to get a custom one?
I need a DI that can do saturation when pushed but that it also has an HPF (variable or fixed) hopefully 24dB/octave
Or maybe try to get a custom one?
Sushibox Finally V3?
HPF:
12dB/o < 30Hz
24dB/o >30Hz <120Hz variable
12AU7 tube preamp with variable gain and master. Balanced DI XLR and separate 1/4" jack.
I don't believe it's operating at 24dB/o >30Hz <120Hz.
Each HPF is 12dB/o....So if the HPF switch is turned off, then the fixed filter (the one that's <30Hz, which is always on) will operate at 12dB/o. But then when you flip on the HPF switch, the two filters added together will make the <30dB/o filter operate at 24dB/o, while the variable filter (>30Hz <120Hz) will only be operating at 12dB/o.
This is the way I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong.
