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Bass lines that almost everybody plays wrong...
- Thread starter Socrates
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Considering part of it is done backwards (as in, recorded normally, and then the tape is flipped), yeah.......
...yeah & that's why we play bass.
FME, guitarists (emphasis on Rock guitarist) will not have the same latitude as us.
Most people will notice a wrong chord...sometimes, even the guitar solo gets heavy scrutiny by the casual listener.
OTOH, the bass part (unless it's "the hook") pretty much gets a pass.
Actually,its the other way around. Ice Ice baby was sampled from Under pressure.
nice thread.
On a slight diverging thought.. regarding re-arrangements instead of
mis-learning
regarding "Superstition"
Well there is the famous keyboard bass line which is what people recognize and remember, but there is a bass guitar part as well..
Is that bad?
Unless you have enough players to do all the overdubbed parts, arrangements have to be made. eg. on the record of some song, the guitarist could overdub two rhythm tracks and lead track, but live, he'll play 1 rhythm then lead, and so during lead the bassist might shadow the rhythm guitar track rather than the bass track because it sounds better in that particular song. Choices have to be made.
Of course the best choices are made if one properly knows all the parts, the bass, the guitar, horns, voice, drum, keyboard, everything. Then we'd be able to re-arrange the piece to fit the current ensemble better than we'd be able to do so if we only know our own part, or 'sort of know' our own part.
On a slight diverging thought.. regarding re-arrangements instead of
mis-learning
regarding "Superstition"
Well there is the famous keyboard bass line which is what people recognize and remember, but there is a bass guitar part as well..
Is that bad?
Unless you have enough players to do all the overdubbed parts, arrangements have to be made. eg. on the record of some song, the guitarist could overdub two rhythm tracks and lead track, but live, he'll play 1 rhythm then lead, and so during lead the bassist might shadow the rhythm guitar track rather than the bass track because it sounds better in that particular song. Choices have to be made.
Of course the best choices are made if one properly knows all the parts, the bass, the guitar, horns, voice, drum, keyboard, everything. Then we'd be able to re-arrange the piece to fit the current ensemble better than we'd be able to do so if we only know our own part, or 'sort of know' our own part.
Now there's a perfect example of a cover song but done with the instruments and musical capability on hand.
Jazz players routinely play "standards". There's never any worry about sounding like "the original" (in many cases the "original" is not exactly known).
Why should rock music be different? Just play the song and play it well - like a musician, not a machine.
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I can't believe nobody has mentioned "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" yet. I don't play the main riff the "right" way, but the way I do play it works..... then again, I haven't found too many guitar players that play it right either!!! 
True, the riff played by the bass doesn't change in the place where people typically play the C7, but the change is implied by the melody (head), and the piano accompaniment appears to change during the solos if not the head. Whether the piano is playing C7 or not, dunno ... that'll need to wait till I get my hands on an instrument.
You guys are overlooking something.
A lot of folks enjoy watching a band do their OWN interpretation of a song. Heck, Social Distortion's version of Ring of Fire isn't quite like Johnny Cash's. And Cash's version of Hurt isn't quite like NIN version.
I dont WANT to hear a bassline note for note... not less it's something like Money or Another One Bites the Dust. Who cares if someone does a walking bassline on Tush (I personally think it would sound cool as hell).
A lot of folks enjoy watching a band do their OWN interpretation of a song. Heck, Social Distortion's version of Ring of Fire isn't quite like Johnny Cash's. And Cash's version of Hurt isn't quite like NIN version.
I dont WANT to hear a bassline note for note... not less it's something like Money or Another One Bites the Dust. Who cares if someone does a walking bassline on Tush (I personally think it would sound cool as hell).
Agreed. Performance and transcription skills are just not the same thing. If someone doesn't play an exact note for note copy of a song doesn't mean they don't know they're doing it and even if they didn't "Happy" accidents often account for some great music!
Agreed. Performance and transcription skills are just not the same thing. If someone doesn't play an exact note for note copy of a song doesn't mean they don't know they're doing it and even if they didn't "Happy" accidents often account for some great music!
I agree.
And you know....I happen to have noticed that the Allman Bros., Bob Dylan, and Grateful Dead (among many others) play their songs different EACH time... and hardly EVER like the album.
I don't like playing my own songs the same way twice, never mind a song I've been hearing on the radio for 40 years.
Note-for-note covers are freaking boring to play, to watch, & to listen to.
Note-for-note covers are freaking boring to play, to watch, & to listen to.
This:
+ this:
= truth. Somewhere along the line people confused memorizing and imitating with actually knowing and playing music...
+ this:
= truth. Somewhere along the line people confused memorizing and imitating with actually knowing and playing music...
