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Bass modifications...why?

Yeah.... I play with old cars too... When I was a teenager all I wanted to do was add the latest and greatest "performance" equipment. Now forty years later I worry about how "original" a new component is.... But my personal hot rod is all about the "performance" equipment..... But back in the 70's & 80's I tinkered with all my instruments, But I had time, energy and ambition then too.... I marvel at some of the guys on here that modify their amps and circuitry and such. Wish I had that electronics "gene".
 
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Same reason a person modifies a 20 thousand dollar motorcycle, probably.

What, you mean one of these? Any Harley owner (me included) will tell you its not a motorcycle; it's a place to put all your chrome goodies, and accessories...since I bought it new, I've spent at least as much on my Sportster as it cost originally; and I'm not quite finished...;)
 
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I've been playing bass since I was 8 years old and I'm now in my 60's. I notice that many, many players make modifications to their basses. I've never had anything but stock basses in all those years. I realize I'm old school, but what is it that you're after that you can't get out of a stock instrument?

A pick holder. I await the day where I build a custom guitar with one built in flush with the body. That and my last name is Stark.

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People are arrogant and they think they know better than the original designers.

Some mods I've done (tummy relief) have been great improvements. But most have been just wasting time trying to apply my Superior Intelligence to a design that was already pretty well thought out.

I bought a Bronco Bass not too long ago. I decided that I Will Never Change Anything On This Thing. Out of the box, this $100 (used) bass sounds better than most of the basses on most of the videos I've seen. And it is just a dream to play.
 
I've been playing bass since I was 8 years old and I'm now in my 60's. I notice that many, many players make modifications to their basses. I've never had anything but stock basses in all those years. I realize I'm old school, but what is it that you're after that you can't get out of a stock instrument?

A good question.

As you no doubt know, all of this came about in the '60s when the most popular basses in the world (Fender Ps & Js) were everywhere - and some players thought that they lacked some features. The necks & bodies were A-Okay, but the electronics & hardware were lacking. Interestingly, Fender has *never* made electronics that make all players happy - so it's still pretty normal for someone to buy a new P or J bass and immediately replace the pickups. Funny, really - Fender *has* tried - but they'd do better to offer 3rd party pickups for an upcharge, I think.
 
People are arrogant and they think they know better than the original designers.
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In many cases the original designers are trying to appeal to mass market which often means common denominator and sometimes even lowest common denominator. I will quite happily leave building of the basic platform to the experts, but when it comes to electronics I don't think knowing what I need and how to achieve it makes me arrogant.
 
ok so it turns out its not about only replacing the pick ups .. regardless keep in mind its not only how expensive/cheap parts mite be, lets not forget the labor cost as well! (unless of course ur doing it yourself) wish not everyone is qualified for! so if replacing only the bridge/pick ups/ youll be looking at around $200 pick ups (on the low end) another $200 for bridge (again on the low end) plus probably another $350 in labor! not including pre amp/pots ect. youre already in for $750 then you add the $250 price tag for the the cheap bass your at $1000 not to mention the aggravation/waiting /the shipping cost / gigs you lost waiting on it etc. it adds up quickly!!also keep in mind labor could cost even more! (as luthiers ussually charge by the HR) then the kicker!! wait patiently and excited only to hope it worked out ! if it didnt now to start all over ? yes your probably better off coming up with the extra $400 dollars for a bass that not only has great pick ups but a whole lot more! hey if upgrading is your thing go for it!

I bought my first bass, a Jazz SX Vintage, almost year ago. The day it arrived I found, thanks to this website, the bass I wanted - a signed Sire Marcus Miller V7. The V7 I'm leaving stock; the Jazz SX I bought because I wanted to make it into a P/J & learn more about guitars. I did not anticipate loving a $150 bass - I wanted to not feel guilty about making a mistake on the SX, but I scored a quality instrument. I found a Babciz FCH bridge for $20, an Ampeg BA-108v1 amp for $45, and I want to add threaded inserts in the neck, add copper shielding, & upgrade the wiring. I'm seriously thinking about getting a third bass & hacking into it first :facepalm:. Throw in a few books, a $20 leather strap & a new matched pair of pickups, & I'm still well under the $1k estimate. Now, I will lose a lot of time I could have used learning the fingerboard, but I will learn about the guitar & how it sounds the ways it can sound. I just have to watch out I don't spend my free time tinkering with, & trying to build, amps (and buying instruments).

I took a similar approach with my cars, I want to know how they work. I'm not cleaning Pistons, but I will do a tune-up. Obviously I enjoy working with my hands & seeing how things work, & I recognize not everyone else does. However, I do feel good when I can hear my engine idle & know I found the vacuum leak. I can save up & order an Alembic (it'll take me a Long time to build one), and maybe I will, but modding a bass will help me know what I want, & what I don't, in a $x x10^3 bass. Hopefully along the way I will become a better player.
 
I bought my first bass, a Jazz SX Vintage, almost year ago. The day it arrived I found, thanks to this website, the bass I wanted - a signed Sire Marcus Miller V7. The V7 I'm leaving stock; the Jazz SX I bought because I wanted to make it into a P/J & learn more about guitars. I did not anticipate loving a $150 bass - I wanted to not feel guilty about making a mistake on the SX, but I scored a quality instrument. I found a Babciz FCH bridge for $20, an Ampeg BA-108v1 amp for $45, and I want to add threaded inserts in the neck, add copper shielding, & upgrade the wiring. I'm seriously thinking about getting a third bass & hacking into it first :facepalm:. Throw in a few books, a $20 leather strap & a new matched pair of pickups, & I'm still well under the $1k estimate. Now, I will lose a lot of time I could have used learning the fingerboard, but I will learn about the guitar & how it sounds the ways it can sound. I just have to watch out I don't spend my free time tinkering with, & trying to build, amps (and buying instruments).

I took a similar approach with my cars, I want to know how they work. I'm not cleaning Pistons, but I will do a tune-up. Obviously I enjoy working with my hands & seeing how things work, & I recognize not everyone else does. However, I do feel good when I can hear my engine idle & know I found the vacuum leak. I can save up & order an Alembic (it'll take me a Long time to build one), and maybe I will, but modding a bass will help me know what I want, & what I don't, in a $x x10^3 bass. Hopefully along the way I will become a better player.
hey.. thats kool!! but I think you're a little late for the party.. this topic was months ago . infact im very surprised this topic is still open.
 
hey.. thats kool!! but I think you're a little late for the party.. this topic was months ago . infact im very surprised this topic is still open.

That's how we roll in the East Coast - parties don't start before 1AM ;). Shoot, New Yorkers don't leave the house before 1 - I'm surprised when I see a party start thinning out at midnight.

But my Grandmother told me to never be the 1st at a party, & never be the last out the door: if the party was over, then please excuse me beating a dead horse.

Noob question: did NoBlackTShirts post at 8:45PM on St. Patrick's Day? I'm looking at a smaller font on the bottom of the post, next to the Report & Bookmark links.
 
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That's how we roll in the East Coast - parties don't start before 1AM ;). Shoot, New Yorkers don't leave the house before 1 - I'm surprised when I see a party start thinning out at midnight.

But my Grandmother told me to never be the 1st at a party, & never be the last out the door: if the party was over, then please excuse me beating a dead horse.

Noob question: did NoBlackTShirts post at 8:45PM on St. Patrick's Day? I'm looking at a smaller font on the bottom of the post, next to the Report & Bookmark links.
Yeah this topic was a wile ago.. but Kool welcome in dude !! :)
 
I've been playing bass since I was 8 years old and I'm now in my 60's. I notice that many, many players make modifications to their basses. I've never had anything but stock basses in all those years. I realize I'm old school, but what is it that you're after that you can't get out of a stock instrument?

OP, I am 100% with you.

I've never understood why folks don't just buy a bass that looks, sounds and feels like they want it to in the first place.

Of course my 20-something son tweaks and modifies virtually everything he owns, so maybe it is a generational thing.
 
I have been playing for 44 years--- just did my 1st bass mod. Picked up a Squier P5 really cheap. Played it for about 8 months to see if it was a keeper (I want at least one bass w/flats, one w/rounds). Love the Squier, but the tuners, though very good, were not high quality--- new tuners installed.

Picking up on an early post: John, Do you recall which tuners you got and how did the hole alignment work out? I hope your mods turned out OK. Thx, Tom
 
Picking up on an early post: John, Do you recall which tuners you got and how did the hole alignment work out? I hope your mods turned out OK. Thx, Tom
Schallers--- peg diameter matched if I remember correctly. Mounting screws did not- still worth it IMO. I string my basses E~C, high C string still has original tuner.
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