No Musicians Friend makes Rogue. That is quite obvious to anyone that has been to any of the 3 warehouses. A little over 50% of the equipment they have in there is Rogue. Ibanez isn't quite that stupid.
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Basses that just sound BAD...
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Originally posted by tallguybcs
your caps lock is on, if you aren't aware already...
I actually love T-40's, great american made basses that can still be had for around $200, I think they sound great too. Of course, I have a real lust fir peavey
Well, I have mentioned it before in another thread, but it was more than 20 years ago that I owned that T-40. Still, it was the most negative experience I have ever had with an instrument, so it stands out. (I should have bought the Fender!) I sold it to some sucker for $175 and bought a G&L L2000. Talk about night and day!
I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes!
Originally posted by tallguybcs
I actually love T-40's, great american made basses that can still be had for around $200, I think they sound great too. Of course, I have a real lust fir peavey
Although I really don't understand your lust for peavey, the T-40 is a rather interesting bass. I actually think they look cool in a strange sort of way. They do have quite a few sounds, though none of them are SPECTACULAR.
I hate Peavey though. My first bass was a Peavey Fury... what a piece of crap.
--jeff
Actually, I have coaxed some very good tones out of one, it just takes working with the electronics. They are definitely capable of very bad sounds, too.
Yep. The cheapest Soundgears, which are passive, sound halfway decent.
I have never heard a Soundgear with a stock preamp that sounded good, with the exception of the Gary Willis model.
Yeah, T-20's sounded really good, too. I had GAS for a fretless one back when I owned my T-40. Of course, part of the reason was because Jamaaladeen Tacuma endorsed them back then.
Bad? Hmn...Well, I've heard some Squires that make me cry, a few Ibanez' that aren't the top of the hill, every BC Rich Warlock I've played (the NJ-Platinum. I hear the USA models aren't too bad though), a few MIM Fenders...a Yamaha or two.
Mostly lower end stuff with a couple of lemon in the mid priced range.
Mostly lower end stuff with a couple of lemon in the mid priced range.
Planet Boulder
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So you're saying that Musicians Friend has its own factory and in it they produce Rogues?
With all due respect, the simple fact that their warehouses are stocked with instruments with their proprietary brand on them does not mean that they build them themselves. This seems highly implausible, even to someone who hasn't been to one of their warehouses.
My guess is that, if Ibanez (or the same factory that churns out cheap Ibanezes) doesn't make them, some other mass-producing offshore factory makes them and MF merely slaps their proprietary brand on it. From a cost-savings perspective, it would make little sense for Musicians Friend, a company that mainly functions as a reseller, to build their own factory and produce them themselves.
Ibanez doesn't make most of their basses, they have the Core-Tek factory build them.
I imagine that Rogues are made by Samick.
I imagine that Rogues are made by Samick.
Planet Boulder
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embellisher: That is probably the case indeed.
Seems strange that the jokers at Musicians' Fiend seemed reasonably sure that Ibanez made them but, then again, it was probably pretty par for the course for the personnel in this particular MF store.*
*Dig the unintentional alliteration!
Seems strange that the jokers at Musicians' Fiend seemed reasonably sure that Ibanez made them but, then again, it was probably pretty par for the course for the personnel in this particular MF store.*
*Dig the unintentional alliteration!
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
a few yamahas that i've played, some of the lower model rbx's, and even the john myung, sounded awful to me when i played them.
Since sounding bad is relative, I'll give u examples of tones i hate. And keep in mind that it was me playing, so it was possibly (not necessarily) my fault....
1) Squier Standard Jazz Bass with Pick. bridge pickup only ---->>>>>>
I don't even know why I tried this, sounded more like a cheap Telecaster (that'll give u an idea of its bass sound). I knew the 60-cycle was gonna come in, but it wasn't even close to as bad as the bass's tone itself. I don't even like this setup on a good Fender...
2) A ~500 dollar (or so, I totally don't remember the model) Washburn 6 I played in Ithaca---->>>>>>>>>>>>> WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST B I'VE EVER PLAYED (although Soundgear 5's suck pretty badly too, and i also hate the OLP Stingray 5's B). Flopped more than a butterfly-style goalie at a NHL shootout competition. The high C was just as bad - sounded as tinny and weak as the high E on my cheap Ibanez guitar. Also the string spacing was WAY TOO FARKING TIGHT.
The next bass I played at the store was an MTD Grendel with wenge fingerboard.....I PROMPTLY SH1T MY PANTS AT THE COMPARISON.....
3) A Fender P-Bass with stainless steel strings and a pick --------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you cut out VIRTUALLY ALL HIGH MIDS AND HIGHS, I absolutely detest the way this sounds.
As you can see, I am not a big fan of too much brightness.... I'll put more sounds down when finals are over...
1) Squier Standard Jazz Bass with Pick. bridge pickup only ---->>>>>>
I don't even know why I tried this, sounded more like a cheap Telecaster (that'll give u an idea of its bass sound). I knew the 60-cycle was gonna come in, but it wasn't even close to as bad as the bass's tone itself. I don't even like this setup on a good Fender...
2) A ~500 dollar (or so, I totally don't remember the model) Washburn 6 I played in Ithaca---->>>>>>>>>>>>> WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST B I'VE EVER PLAYED (although Soundgear 5's suck pretty badly too, and i also hate the OLP Stingray 5's B). Flopped more than a butterfly-style goalie at a NHL shootout competition. The high C was just as bad - sounded as tinny and weak as the high E on my cheap Ibanez guitar. Also the string spacing was WAY TOO FARKING TIGHT.
The next bass I played at the store was an MTD Grendel with wenge fingerboard.....I PROMPTLY SH1T MY PANTS AT THE COMPARISON.....
3) A Fender P-Bass with stainless steel strings and a pick --------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you cut out VIRTUALLY ALL HIGH MIDS AND HIGHS, I absolutely detest the way this sounds.
As you can see, I am not a big fan of too much brightness.... I'll put more sounds down when finals are over...
1) Any bass with dead strings. That is the majority of basses in stores.
2) Basses with bad woods that don't 'ring' at all. That is the majority of all basses at least in the <2000$ range.
2) Basses with bad woods that don't 'ring' at all. That is the majority of all basses at least in the <2000$ range.
I agree as well, and while cheap Ibanezes and the like sound a bit bad, I don't really mind, since noone will look for them on the vintage market twenty years from now, when old, bad sounding, Gibsons will continue to rise in value. They look good, those over sized SG:s, though.
I had one in the early 80s and the ONE thing I did dig was the pickup "In phase/out of phase" toggle switch. It was the only bass that could get that tone Ross Valory (who was playing a T40 at the time) was using all over Journey's Escape album (see: "Don't stop believing" & "Who's crying now").
However the neck on mine went to hell in about 2 years.
However the neck on mine went to hell in about 2 years.
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