Battling neck dive on an Epiphone EB-3

[Brian D]

Here's what I did to my wife's EB-0, no ugliness required.

Strap button on the neck end moved to the center of the neckplate, and the one on the bottom of the body has been moved off center by a few inches. Doing so has shifted the balance point and counteracted the neck dive.

 

[AaronVonRock]

Here's what I did to my wife's EB-0, no ugliness required.

Strap button on the neck end moved to the heel and the one on the bottom of the body has been moved off center by a few inches. Doing so has shifted the balance point and counteracted the neck dive.

That is the most sensible and aesthetically pleasing solution to neckdive I've seen. Makes me wonder why Gibson and Epiphone don't do that to begin with.

Edit: Would moving the other strap button to the horn prevent the bass rolling forward or give it even better balance?

 

[ShonenCello]

Here's what I did to my wife's EB-0, no ugliness required.

Strap button on the neck end moved to the center of the neckplate, and the one on the bottom of the body has been moved off center by a few inches. Doing so has shifted the balance point and counteracted the neck dive.

Got to try that on my EB-0

Does your roll forward? I can't get around that problem on mine.

 

[Brian D]

Got to try that on my EB-0

Does your roll forward? I can't get around that problem on mine.

Not that I recall, but it's been a while since I've played it. I put Dunlop straploks on it also which helped. I set the position of the bottom strap button by putting the bass on her and adjusting the angle. So, it might be worthwhile getting someone to help you by holding the bass at the right angle while you stick some tape or something on to mark it.

 

[EdO.]

A suede strap that doesn't slide helps but isn't a true fix, it just helps. For those of you who refuse to deal with a neck diver that's your right and I understand. If you don't understand that for some of us dealing with the issue for a particular specific instrument that we love IS worth it, don't knock us just because you don't/can't/won't understand it. Neck dive CAN be dealt with successfully and simply and for ME, it's worth the effort. That you don't get it isn't an issue to those of us who do.

 

[mojomike001]

I get it. You cope. It's like marrying a good-looking woman who can't cook worth a damn. You eat out a lot.

 

[bobyoung53]

I think the Gibson's are shortscale (30.5") which should make any diving a bit more manageable (never had the opportunity to try one myself). The Epiphone EB-3 is 34" and comes standard with headstock right to the floor neck dive.

Thanks, I didn't realize that. Yeah i wouldn't want a 34" neck heading to the floor all the time, it's not so bad with a 30.5 inch scale, I almost forget about it most of the time.

 

[karl_em_all]

Edit: Would moving the other strap button to the horn prevent the bass rolling forward or give it even better balance?

I tried that first with my EB-3 and the best it got me was the bass resting parallel to the floor. It was a major improvement for the balance but not enough for me. On the EB-0, which is shortscale like the Gibsons (30.5") it would probably work perfect.

 

[EdO.]

I get it. You cope. It's like marrying a good-looking woman who can't cook worth a damn. You eat out a lot.

One fairly negative way to look at it I suppose. But the sex is totally worth it!

 

[Christian K]

another version that solves the same problem

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Where can I buy this?