Beefing up the P or J sound, advise needed...

[FaithNoMan]

+1 to this. I put model J's in my Geddy Lee jazz and it completely transformed that bass for me (in a good way). I was so impressed that I put a model P in a parts bass I was assembling and it is a beast now.

I know it may not work for some, and I was in doubt because I like metallic clank(so does Geddy, right? lol), of which I thought the QP's would trounce them.
But the whole Dimarzio Model P and J thing is all about them being built for rock.
They are definitely built to take on Les Pauls and Marshall stacks, like an engineer put a preset "rock eq" into them. I also think maybe the harshness of ceramic magnets helps a little there as well.

 

[brianrost]

Only the Tele traditionally sported a side jack.

And the P, until 1957

 

[40Hz]

And the P, until 1957

You're a better historian than me.

 

[EatS1stBassist]

Hey guys,

Years ago I played an American Precision at a local music shop, played nicely, sounded good. At some point during playing I used an effect of which I cannot recall the name, and I'm looking for it. The effect seemed to 'widen' and 'deepen' the dry sound of the P-bass. As if instead of a split coil pup I was now playing with a humbucker. The p-bass sound transformed into something bigger, fuller, just way better. There wasn't any distortion or so, and it wasn't a compressor, nor any type of chorus or flanger or so....I just can't remember what it was.....

Point is that I'm looking at buying a Fender Jazz fretless, love the sound. Yet I also want the bass to have that 'big wide' sound if I feel like it, and that effect I once used would do just that...

Any ideas or suggestions? ;-)

Sansamp!

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

 

[jking138]

It was a multi effects pedal, reddish, but that's about all I can remember. I think the brand was ZOOM....

It could have been the multistomp ms60b or B3 I'm sure it would appear if you just googles 'Zoom bass pedal'.

 

[Yellow Bang66]

Hey guys,

Years ago I played an American Precision at a local music shop, played nicely, sounded good. At some point during playing I used an effect of which I cannot recall the name, and I'm looking for it. The effect seemed to 'widen' and 'deepen' the dry sound of the P-bass. As if instead of a split coil pup I was now playing with a humbucker. The p-bass sound transformed into something bigger, fuller, just way better. There wasn't any distortion or so, and it wasn't a compressor, nor any type of chorus or flanger or so....I just can't remember what it was.....

Point is that I'm looking at buying a Fender Jazz fretless, love the sound. Yet I also want the bass to have that 'big wide' sound if I feel like it, and that effect I once used would do just that...

Any ideas or suggestions? ;-)

Okay, could this be it? [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Ilove this thing!, Once dialed in it It gives me a great Tone, I cant figure out what its doing exactly, But I like to describe it as a reverse reverb & compressor. It seems to push the sound forward(opposite of reverb) and enhances the bass' frequencies,make the bass less boomy & tames treble/highs. I guess thats the aural exiter part. I love, Love this pedal I pair it with a tech 21 sansamp svt pedal, both guitarist & singer in my band Love my tone. I get a super thick grindy tone! I love it. Im surprised its not more popular Pedal! it does require a little bit of fiddling to dial it in,but its very little & easy!

 

[-Asdfgh-]

'Sound like a humbucker' to me would be low mid boost, a bit of a reduction in treble. If you really want to fatten, add a very little overdrive with a pedal that works well for a bass (for example, with a clean blend) and carefully tame the top end and also use the aforementioned low mid boost.

 

[Andy Daventry]

Hey guys,

Years ago I played an American Precision at a local music shop, played nicely, sounded good. At some point during playing I used an effect of which I cannot recall the name, and I'm looking for it. The effect seemed to 'widen' and 'deepen' the dry sound of the P-bass. As if instead of a split coil pup I was now playing with a humbucker. The p-bass sound transformed into something bigger, fuller, just way better. There wasn't any distortion or so, and it wasn't a compressor, nor any type of chorus or flanger or so....I just can't remember what it was.....

Point is that I'm looking at buying a Fender Jazz fretless, love the sound. Yet I also want the bass to have that 'big wide' sound if I feel like it, and that effect I once used would do just that...

Any ideas or suggestions? ;-)

Quite honestly it sounds like a simple EQ pedal to me - like a Boss GE7 or GEB7 - with a boost in the low mids.

 

[tpaul]

Guys, it was a zoom multi. The OP said so. With any of hundreds - scratch that, thousands - of possible combinations of effects turned on at the time he played it.

 

[Bright Midnight]

After two pages of speculation, you give us this?!?

OK, it was a reddish Zoom multi-effects unit. That's your answer. Of course you have no idea which combination of effects happened to be turned on at the time...

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If that's the attitude and you're bad at reading, well, goodbye then.

 

[Bright Midnight]

Guys, it was a zoom multi. The OP said so. With any of hundreds - scratch that, thousands - of possible combinations of effects turned on at the time he played it.

Guys, it was a zoom multi. The OP said so. With any of hundreds - scratch that, thousands - of possible combinations of effects turned on at the time he played it.[/QUO

Guys, it was a zoom multi. The OP said so. With any of hundreds - scratch that, thousands - of possible combinations of effects turned on at the time he played it.

Didn't say it was Zoom, but I think it is. If I knew it was Zoom, why would I even ask?

 

[packhowitzer]

I know it may not work for some, and I was in doubt because I like metallic clank(so does Geddy, right? lol), of which I thought the QP's would trounce them.
But the whole Dimarzio Model P and J thing is all about them being built for rock.
They are definitely built to take on Les Pauls and Marshall stacks, like an engineer put a preset "rock eq" into them. I also think maybe the harshness of ceramic magnets helps a little there as well.

For me, it started as a way to get my GL to have a similar output to my various P basses. My GL is the last year they were CIJ before production moved to MIM (2007 maybe?). It's a great bass, but the stock pickups were just lacking in output compared to what I was needing. I did use a boost pedal for a while that I'd engage when swapping basses on stage, but what I found myself really after, was retaining the character of a J bass while getting fairly close to the sound of a P bass - even if it came at the cost of some of the "refinement" that perhaps J basses are known for. And frankly I wanted it to cut through just a bit more without having to make drastic changes to the relatively flat EQ settings I use for the P basses. Well for the Model Js delivered in spades. That GL bass is now nearly neck and neck with the hottest P bass I own and it's loud and still sounds like a J. I roll the bridge pickup back just a bit sometimes and can very nearly get a P bass tone if the situation calls for it.
That experience led me to spring for a Model P for my SX parts bass. It thumps, and while it doesn't really have what i'd call a "vintage" p bass sound, what it does do is elbow its way into the mix every time I play it live. And the price was great too.

 

[FaithNoMan]

For me, it started as a way to get my GL to have a similar output to my various P basses. My GL is the last year they were CIJ before production moved to MIM (2007 maybe?). It's a great bass, but the stock pickups were just lacking in output compared to what I was needing. I did use a boost pedal for a while that I'd engage when swapping basses on stage, but what I found myself really after, was retaining the character of a J bass while getting fairly close to the sound of a P bass - even if it came at the cost of some of the "refinement" that perhaps J basses are known for. And frankly I wanted it to cut through just a bit more without having to make drastic changes to the relatively flat EQ settings I use for the P basses. Well for the Model Js delivered in spades. That GL bass is now nearly neck and neck with the hottest P bass I own and it's loud and still sounds like a J. I roll the bridge pickup back just a bit sometimes and can very nearly get a P bass tone if the situation calls for it.
That experience led me to spring for a Model P for my SX parts bass. It thumps, and while it doesn't really have what i'd call a "vintage" p bass sound, what it does do is elbow its way into the mix every time I play it live. And the price was great too.

Yeah, they're one of the closest J pups to sounding like a P in the neck position. I saw a vid on them being compared to a stock P and thought they sounded better.

 

[Bright Midnight]

Thanks a ton for all your replies. Instead of finding that brand which might well be Zoom or any other, you've handed me a ton of advise on exactly what I need!