• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Beer and..?

#61
D M C said:
People can get pretty snobbish about American style lagers like Budweiser, Miller and Coors, but there is nothing wrong with these beers. They are not easy to make and use fine ingredients. They are just very popular and are well marketed, so people believe that they must be inferior. They are also usually the starting point for many beer drinkers and many never expand their palate beyond them.

American style lagers are but a shade on the spectrum of beers and ales and can be quite crisp and refreshing.
Click to expand...
15 years ago if I told you bad was made from rice you would have spit it out.
Bud isn't quality, it's mass produced mass market beer for people who like to swill and get drunk.

They control the market not because of quality but because of laws and rutheless tactics.

For many years there (BY LAW) were only 3 distributors across the entire country. Bud Miller and Coors. It was a monopoly basically. It wasn't until Sam Adams had trouble getting their beer distributed that the laws were contested and changed so small breweries could get distributed.

Budweiser then in control of the market starts giving stores ultimatums that if they want to sell the beer they get to decide shelf space. Making as many crappy products and possible combinations of 6 packs, 12 packs, lime beer, tomato beer, cans , bottles, aluminum bottles...whatever it takes to hog ALL the shelf space. Since they are the major distributor and make all the money and have all the advertising (brainwashing) you HAVE to have their product in the store or you shoot yourself in the foot.

And your only other two choices were miller and coors.

So you don't want to give bud all the shelf space, then they pull the product and you lose half your customers. Your business tanks because you can't get any other beer in there becasue small guys can't distribute unless they give Bud an unfair price for doing it. Which makes it hard for them to grow, lobby congress to change laws, etc...


shag CORPORATE SWILL!

ZenG said:
No I'm not. Beer out of a can sucks and is distinctly different than beer from a bottle. Beer out of a can is the lowest form of beer there is.
You can pour it into a glass but it still tastes like what it is......sucky canned beer.

Get off my lawn.
Click to expand...
This coming from the guy that equates beer to soda for low class and only drink 'fine liquor'? If someone gave you a blind test of 2 glasses of beer I guarantee you would not be able to tell.

I saw a taste test vid awhile back where miller, coors and bud drinkers would know 'their' beer anywhere. They were giving a cup of each and they ALL got it wrong.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Atshen
#67
Murdoc_420 said:
15 years ago if I told you bad was made from rice you would have spit it out.
Bud isn't quality, it's mass produced mass market beer for people who like to swill and get drunk.

They control the market not because of quality but because of laws and rutheless tactics.

For many years there (BY LAW) were only 3 distributors across the entire country. Bud Miller and Coors. It was a monopoly basically. It wasn't until Sam Adams had trouble getting their beer distributed that the laws were contested and changed so small breweries could get distributed.

Budweiser then in control of the market starts giving stores ultimatums that if they want to sell the beer they get to decide shelf space. Making as many crappy products and possible combinations of 6 packs, 12 packs, lime beer, tomato beer, cans , bottles, aluminum bottles...whatever it takes to hog ALL the shelf space. Since they are the major distributor and make all the money and have all the advertising (brainwashing) you HAVE to have their product in the store or you shoot yourself in the foot.

And your only other two choices were miller and coors.

So you don't want to give bud all the shelf space, then they pull the product and you lose half your customers. Your business tanks because you can't get any other beer in there becasue small guys can't distribute unless they give Bud an unfair price for doing it. Which makes it hard for them to grow, lobby congress to change laws, etc...


shag CORPORATE SWILL!
Click to expand...

You seem to be pretty emotionally invested in hating American style lager, and that's okay. We all dislike somethings. Arguments that reflect that emotional investment are generally not the best way to coax others to your position.

Anyway, I like a nice American style lager every now and again. I don't drink it to get drunk; I drink it because I find it to be a pleasant beverage.

I also like McDonald's french fries. I don't eat them very often though.
 
#68
ZenG said:
In "the olde days" beer was easy to make and cheap. Not a "noble libation" but a drink of the common and lower classes.....

But all those who like it, by all means enjoy....
Click to expand...

There's good beer and bad. A superior quality of anything can most certainly be called noble.

Refer to #3
Noble dictionary definition | noble defined

As all words do, there are many applications and connotations.
 
#69
To the comment about finding Red Stripe that is not skunky, the good thing about canned bear is it does not get skunky because the light is not screwing it up.
Clear bottles are stupid, green bottles are only a little better, brown bottles are the best of glass and cans are best.
There is nothing wrong with canned beer and there is nothing wrong with many of the simple beers from decades ago, though I agree the big three do produce some sh1te beer.
Breweries (all kinds) have figured out that their beer tastes better (exactly as they brewed it) after being stored and shipped in cans.
To the OP's question, I like ginger ale in beer, I like lemonade in beer and I really like tomato juice (or V8) and Tabasco in beer, or a little squirt of Sriracha.
I don't like hop-ey beers, have not acquired a taste for the tons of new brews, my kids had that product available to them since they started drinking beer, so they like it.
I started drinking beer in around 1970 and there were no real available strong IPA's or any of what I call the heavier beers for quite some time after that.
We thought that Molson Canadian and Labatts Blue and Green were the better stronger beers back then.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Atshen
#70
I not so recently bought a 12-pack of THE BEAST to keep my fridge. If I'm going to buy crap, I'm not going to pay a lot for it. $5.77 for a 12 pack, sure. For any guests who don't like ales, it's there. I'll cook with them, and even drink one, maybe. Okay, so I drank five of them over the past two months.

Back on topic: beer mixes well with sausages, so I wonder how well sausages would mix with beer... like a celery stick in a bloody mary...
 
#71
D M C said:
You seem to be pretty emotionally invested in hating American style lager, and that's okay. We all dislike somethings. Arguments that reflect that emotional investment are generally not the best way to coax others to your position.

Anyway, I like a nice American style lager every now and again. I don't drink it to get drunk; I drink it because I find it to be a pleasant beverage.

I also like McDonald's french fries. I don't eat them very often though.
Click to expand...
Has nothing to do with 'emotional investment'. I just know the truth about how it came about and why it is what it is.
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back