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Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro

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Speaking of compressors, I've been experimenting with them lately on my church's soundboard.

This soundboard offers very fine tune control over the compressor. You have threshold, ratio, knee, attack, release, and output gain.

I have the attack generally set to what I believe is "slow" since I'm often dealing with vocals and this supposedly sounds more "natural". Release time is generally short.

With the ratio I like at least a 4:1 ratio because any less usually and it feels like the compressor isn't really doing anything.

Now, with a 4:1 ratio, the signal really gets squashed sometimes so you want to counter with raising the output gain to around 6 or more. (have to be careful though, last night I experienced feedback when I did this >_> )

I generally set the threshold lower and lower until it starts engaging any time the signal from one of the inputs starts to be above "normal".

Finally there's the knee control, I use a hard knee for peak limiting and a soft knee otherwise, on vocals I use a very soft knee.
 
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KingRazor said:
Speaking of compressors, I've been experimenting with them lately on my church's soundboard.

This soundboard offers very fine tune control over the compressor. You have threshold, ratio, knee, attack, release, and output gain.

I have the attack generally set to what I believe is "slow" since I'm often dealing with vocals and this supposedly sounds more "natural". Release time is generally short.

With the ratio I like at least a 4:1 ratio because any less usually and it feels like the compressor isn't really doing anything.

Now, with a 4:1 ratio, the signal really gets squashed sometimes so you want to counter with raising the output gain to around 6 or more. (have to be careful though, last night I experienced feedback when I did this >_> )

I generally set the threshold lower and lower until it starts engaging any time the signal from one of the inputs starts to be above "normal".

Finally there's the knee control, I use a hard knee for peak limiting and a soft knee otherwise, on vocals I use a very soft knee.
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My wish this holiday season is for a Bass V-AMP Pro unit to appear under KingRazor's Christmas tree!

He would LOVE it, first because he knows the mechanics behind gear like a compressor, but secondly, because he would be noodling for days-on-end with all the V-AMP delivers with the utmost in simplicity :-)
 
#323
I was going to say that it would be awesome if Behringer was to add features such as separate threshold ratio settings, release time and knee control on a new firmware version (which is not going to happen) but then I remembered the trouble that is a firmware update...

I have to say, I do love my BVAPro and I would cry like a little child if a new version was to come out but the truth is some new simple features would make this a simply perfect unit (for me at least). USB connectivity (for setup and updates), Graph EQ and more options on the compressor.
 
#324
kurotenshi said:
I was going to say that it would be awesome if Behringer was to add features such as separate threshold ratio settings, release time and knee control on a new firmware version (which is not going to happen) but then I remembered the trouble that is a firmware update...

I have to say, I do love my BVAPro and I would cry like a little child if a new version was to come out but the truth is some new simple features would make this a simply perfect unit (for me at least). USB connectivity (for setup and updates), Graph EQ and more options on the compressor.
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Graphic EQ? Why not go the next step and get a Parametric?
 
#329
I used to own the Bass V-amp (the one that is the shape of a kidney), great device that lasted 5 years. I´m currently looking for a piece of equipment that will meet the following criteria:

Multiple effect box/preamp for use at home with headphones
D.I/preamp for recording
Preamp/ multiple effect box for use with my live setup

I´m particularly interested in how well the V-amp Pro works as a homerecording tool.

What do you think? Shall I get a V-amp Pro?
 
#330
Pilson_fan said:
I used to own the Bass V-amp (the one that is the shape of a kidney), great device that lasted 5 years. I´m currently looking for a piece of equipment that will meet the following criteria:

Multiple effect box/preamp for use at home with headphones
D.I/preamp for recording
Preamp/ multiple effect box for use with my live setup

I´m particularly interested in how well the V-amp Pro works as a homerecording tool.

What do you think? Shall I get a V-amp Pro?
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Absolutely!

Get a V-AMP Pro and you'll be rockin' like Dokken

... plus you can then get a Member # in the V-AMP Squad ;-)

In all seriousness, there are a few hundred reasons in this thread as to why I like the V-AMP Pro, but I'll let you work through them all on your own
 
#331
With the right spankings from superusers, and a good base of customers, Behringer could eclipse what's available from many other companies providing DSP-oriented products in the MI sector. Behringer's best products - and least contentious because they are based on their own R&D - are their affordable DSP-based rack processors meant for project studio or SR.

This cool product I hope will be the basis for future modeling endeavors. Eventually bass players will get it, and Behringer could be one of the power players.
 
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Pilson_fan said:
I used to own the Bass V-amp (the one that is the shape of a kidney), great device that lasted 5 years. I´m currently looking for a piece of equipment that will meet the following criteria:

Multiple effect box/preamp for use at home with headphones
D.I/preamp for recording
Preamp/ multiple effect box for use with my live setup

I´m particularly interested in how well the V-amp Pro works as a homerecording tool.

What do you think? Shall I get a V-amp Pro?
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Recording with the BVAPro is fantastic, the digital output avoids unnecessary conversions and noises from analog connections etc.

If you want a GOOD, affordable, live and practice multi fx pre that can also be used to record then the BVA Pro is your best bet. If you want a multi FX pre for studio, packed with stuff that also can be used live and home (and money is no problem) I would look at the POD X3 Pro since it has more options that I think are better for the studio.
None the less you can't go wrong with the BVA Pro, I use it to record everything I do (even voice) and couldn't be happier.
 
#333
greenboy said:
With the right spankings from superusers, and a good base of customers, Behringer could eclipse what's available from many other companies providing DSP-oriented products in the MI sector. Behringer's best products - and least contentious because they are based on their own R&D - are their affordable DSP-based rack processors meant for project studio or SR.

This cool product I hope will be the basis for future modeling endeavors. Eventually bass players will get it, and Behringer could be one of the power players.
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Couldn't agree more. I was recently looking for some digital EQ and Comp that could be controlled by MIDI and was kind of sad to see that most of their DSP is kind of old. Also, the Virtualizers can only use some limited combinations of the effects which is a drag.
Come on Behringer there is some money here to be spent on your new DSP gear :D
 
#335
I gave the Classic Clean sim a chance for a few weeks, but ended up not liking it. It seemed to be lacking enough low-end, even with a lot of knob-fiddling. The extra head room and definition was kinda annoying. I could hear myself plucking the strings.

I switched over to Bottom End and found bass bliss this morning during service. With compression, it was a more bottomy (is that a word?) boom, smoother and more pleasent to my heart beat. :)
 
#336
Musician's Friend just raised their selling price on the Bass V-AMP Pro, just like American Musical Supply did a few months ago:

http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend...ass-VAMP-PRO-Rack-Modeling-Preamp-?sku=480693

Again, I sure hope it is not the fault of this popular thread! :-)

The V-AMP Pro was released in 2003 and by all counts is due for a much needed successor, not a price increase, but even at $185, it's worth 3-times the amount IMHO.

Usually, when a manufacturer lowers the MSRP, the unit is about to be discontinued, but when it is raised, especially on a 7-year old product, one would guess it's not going away any time soon.
 
#338
aledeville said:
What about the effects? I'm looking for a effect unit, using a separate cab.
I'm interested especially in the distortions. Do they sound good?
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They sound very good BUT (and this is probably the only truly serious issue with the BVA) you either have distortion on the full spectrum or you have it on the low pass only which i think sucks since almost every bass player I know uses clean low pass with distorted hi pass.

Other than that you can have instant Muse like sound with ease.
 
#339
aledeville said:
What about the effects? I'm looking for a effect unit, using a separate cab.
I'm interested especially in the distortions. Do they sound good?
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For what one pays for the V-AMP as a whole, the effects are very good and serviceable.

They can be used for bass, guitar, keys, or whatever you can jack in through the input/s.

Two separate effects loops exist (both Pre and Post DSP) in case you want to patch in other external effects.

There are limited parameters one can tweak with regards to the effects, but again, this should not be a deal breaker.

The overdrive simulations' SPLIT limitation mentioned above is accurate, but for my purposes, I find that full-spectrum operation works best and keeps things simpler.

Cheers!
 
#340
CharlieC said:
In short, the absolute surprise in assembling my current bass rig was the discovery of the Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro.

It's been around for a while now, costs $169 to your door, and does things I thought would never have been available at such a low price point.

I've had zero issues with the unit for the past year and I am puzzled at the lack of adoption in the bass community given what it does, so well, and for so little.

I hope this thread will be the starting point for discussion on the absolute tone it will give you, provided you give it a chance like I did.

I have a good number of user tips that I will pass along to you on this thread and I hope you can share some of yours as well.

Cheers!

P.S. Sure, there are better pre's, that use tubes, and cost lots more, but I think you cannot do better for under $500.

Have a listen to it @ http://www.zinfanus.com/vamp

... and continue reading through the thread to pick up all the user tips!

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How loud is the Behringer/Crown setup?
 
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