Classic Clean, by itself, is too sterile for me. All that gain and thump. I need a smoother sound. But, there are some contemporary christians songs I have played at one of the churches where the thumpy sound works. But it is still too sterile, so I added phaser. slow speed, max depth. It works well.
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Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro
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No, please, don't read the manual. You may come to hate the product so much you will toss it in the garbage can. Come here first and make no apologies for asking. The "manual" for the V-amp is to manuals what having one's tooth drilled to fix a cavity is to "just dropping the dentist for a quick visit".
D, I had compressed down all of Charlie's advice into a single document.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...k5NDYtZjczZDgyYWYyMWJj&authkey=CPCExtAI&hl=en
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...k5NDYtZjczZDgyYWYyMWJj&authkey=CPCExtAI&hl=en
Naked Bass + Compression
Compression! Love it or hate it, but have you heard the V-AMP do it?
To really appreciate compression, your bass must go naked!
For today's class trip, I plan to take you a journey involving the often maligned, but greatly appreciated, compressor built-into the V-AMP.
First, create a patch for yourself, devoid of EFFECTS, DRIVE sims, COMPRESSOR, and above all, an AMPS model. By now, you know how to create a virgin patch using my "Quick Start Guide" document, but now we need to take it a step further by switching to PREAMP BYPASS. To bypass the AMPS section, press the TUNER + TAP buttons simultaneously just as featured in one of my previous thread Tips.
Once you do all of this, you should now have your naked bass signal coming out of your V-AMP. Crank up the VOLUME knob to make the most of the weak signal, then adjust MASTER knob accordingly. Yes, this is your naked bass. Get comfortable with this tone for a few minutes before proceeding so that your ears adjust to the reality that THIS signal is what the V-AMP has to work with.
OK, now it's compressor time.
Slowly bring up the COMPRESSOR knob from zero to 50%, playing all along the way. Nice, huh?
The compressor excels at taking a clean signal, like your naked bass, and it closes the gap between soft and loud portions to provide a smoother, more powerful sound. Under the TAP button, you'll find that the same COMPRESSOR knob controls the ATTACK of the compressor. I prefer zero attack, but you go ahead and find what ATTACK value suits you.
If you like what you hear then welcome to the world of Compression!
I myself use zero-to-little COMPRESSOR on AMP models saturated with GAIN and at-least-half on models using lower GAIN settings.
Cheers!
Compression! Love it or hate it, but have you heard the V-AMP do it?
To really appreciate compression, your bass must go naked!
For today's class trip, I plan to take you a journey involving the often maligned, but greatly appreciated, compressor built-into the V-AMP.
First, create a patch for yourself, devoid of EFFECTS, DRIVE sims, COMPRESSOR, and above all, an AMPS model. By now, you know how to create a virgin patch using my "Quick Start Guide" document, but now we need to take it a step further by switching to PREAMP BYPASS. To bypass the AMPS section, press the TUNER + TAP buttons simultaneously just as featured in one of my previous thread Tips.
Once you do all of this, you should now have your naked bass signal coming out of your V-AMP. Crank up the VOLUME knob to make the most of the weak signal, then adjust MASTER knob accordingly. Yes, this is your naked bass. Get comfortable with this tone for a few minutes before proceeding so that your ears adjust to the reality that THIS signal is what the V-AMP has to work with.
OK, now it's compressor time.
Slowly bring up the COMPRESSOR knob from zero to 50%, playing all along the way. Nice, huh?
The compressor excels at taking a clean signal, like your naked bass, and it closes the gap between soft and loud portions to provide a smoother, more powerful sound. Under the TAP button, you'll find that the same COMPRESSOR knob controls the ATTACK of the compressor. I prefer zero attack, but you go ahead and find what ATTACK value suits you.
If you like what you hear then welcome to the world of Compression!
I myself use zero-to-little COMPRESSOR on AMP models saturated with GAIN and at-least-half on models using lower GAIN settings.
Cheers!
Thanks caeman - I'd already downloaded it after reading most of this thread. A much more pleasant experience than plodding through the manual.
How long has this product been around - 8 years? It's astonishing that Behringer haven't rewritten the manual - its quality is not a well-kept secret!
Sub'd. (be back soon w/ my own v-amp pro)Thanks, again, Charlie.
Call me silly, but I think I see a Squad Member # in diehard70's future!
On another subject:
Did you know that you can actually message Uli Behringer himself very easily through Facebook?
I sent him a message before the holidays with a link to this thread on TalkBass, he replied, and then all of a sudden I start getting all these hits from Germany on my companion web page with the amp model demos. Pretty cool. We are on the radar now for sure. LOL!
Cheers!
Too much tone shaping/EQ just makes life complicated and could degrade the signal. Probably best to go from V-Amp line-out into the return on the Bassman and control your sound from the V-Amp. The line-outs give +20dBu max which will be more than enough to drive the FX return on the Bassman.
Oh, go on then!
Another query. I went through your setup procedure to set L3 as the default mode. I've since discovered that the V-Amp automatically switches to S1 mode when headphones are plugged in. That seems sensible, but it doesn't revert to my new L3 default when the headphones are unplugged, or after powering off and on again. So after using headphones, you have to go into config and reset it to L3 manually. Is this just my unit or is it normal?
The manual says it goes to S1 automatically when headphones are in.
Oddly enough, however, mine does not do this. It stays on whatever mode I put it on. Perhaps it's the nature of my headphones? Sony Studio Monitor Headphones.
Oddly enough, however, mine does not do this. It stays on whatever mode I put it on. Perhaps it's the nature of my headphones? Sony Studio Monitor Headphones.
I was planning on ordering one today, then LIFE happened again.
Have Major GAS for this. Can I still stay and play in your thread?
I'm really digging the info/feedback on this from Charlie, Caeman, and others. Thanks again, Dann
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