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This is the ultimate reality show.
Big businesses got big by putting others out of business!
It's a dog eat dog's world!
Your points are valid!
I do remember being a teenager myself and the only kind of NEW euipment available to me was Fender. I worked moving pipe and saved enough money to purchase my first amp, a Fender bassman 100 and a Fender P bass. My dad gave me his '66 Jazz bass, but I wanted something I had worked for.
My point is that Behringer is targeting the youth of our society.
Parents are concerned with buying a child good equipment before they have shown they are going to stick to it, that bass playing isn't just the flavor of the week.
If parents thought long and hard about this, they would do as I have, purchase equipment that has a higher resale value.
Most Pro's I know look at Behringer euipment as "crap" and this is the word we all use, "rack crap" it's disposable!
Yes, I am fortunate, I earned 2 degree's and I married a man that works his behind off and he and I together can and do purchase high end equipment.
BUT, I still work for what I earn!
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Treena
I see your point completely.
*As far as "rack crap" goes. Behringer is made under ISO9000 specs. Which has a much tighter tolerance than even the US Mil Specs. The ISO9000 calls for 1% tolerance, while the US Mil Spec allows a 3% error margin.
My full time domestic help makes a very comfortable living too.
My point is. Cherish what you've got, Have a heart, and don't look down, or brush off those who are less fortunated than we are.And have to buy Behringer gears in order to be able to afford toplay music. Or people like me, who are thrifty (call me cheap if you want. It won't bothers me).
If I sound judgemental please forgive me, I do have a clue about life and hard times! Been their... done........I have the T-shirt!
Enjoy your equipment what ever brand it is and have fun with music!
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Treena
I apologize if I have offended you.
But the true is. If you must only buy "made in USA". Then, pretty soon, you can only do that by making everything yourself. And good luck in finding non Asian made components.
I heard Mackie is setting up shop in Asia too. Are you going to stop buying Mackies too?
Also. I've read from a guitar magazine, one from the U.K. I think, that a company in Orange County California have been supplying pickups for both Fender and Gibson's OEM, for twenty some years. I think all their stuff are from China. They are now selling under their own brand. I believe they also supplied the Lace sensors. But correct me if I'm wrong.
Also. One guy I know bought a Ford. Found out it's made in Mexico. Another guy bought a Toyota, and the Toyota is made in the USA.
Go figure!
I'm not just buy USA, I am not big on cheap equipment!
I purchased a Mackie SR24VLZ, it was one of the first to come off the assembly line. I use it strickly for monitoring signal, the pre's are cheap and sound that way to my ears.
If I were more of a tech I would try to build my equipment to my specs and not rely on others to build for me~!
Yes, I read the article too. I however purchased my basses when they were made in California! Pick ups and all!
I'm not offended nor do I wish to offend, I'm just opinonated.
Big buisness will make money where and when they can.
I believe in Unions and the work force ethics!
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Treena
I'm an old guy and as I write this I have my bass plugged into a Behringer Bass V Amp and run into a Behringer Eurorack MX 1804X Board. I love Behringer. What's wrong with affordable stuff for people who play music for fun? I also have Peavey and Carvin stuff which is made in the USA. What's the problem with buy stuff that fits your needs.
You know, I used to think like that too, but we ended up spending our church's money on a behringer board because we thought it would be "good enough" The truth is, it wasn't. We had problems with it from day one, like noise, but we didn't realize how bad it was until the behringer finally died and we had to replace it with something much better. The clarity, quality of the electronics, workmanship and every other factor were apparent right away when we used the new board. We would have much better off just buying the better equipment right off the bat.
I still use some behringer stuff, but I'll never use one of their mixers again for live music.
You no longer own the Guild Starfire Reissue, Hartke 3500 Head and David Eden 2x10 cabinet ?
Does your profile need to be updated or what?
Treena
Guys, please keep this somewhat civil, and to the point of the the original post, not your own personal political beliefs on it. I don't want to have to close this, but I will if needed. If you want to go off topic on it, either start a new thread, or take it to PM please.
I'd never buy any Behringer stuff but, if it fits your budget and meets your needs, it's an option. Sure, we'd all like Midas mixers, QSC amps and Lexicon effects, but we can't always scrape up the cash. Behringer beats the crap out of nothing at all (most of the time), so I say live and let live (just this once). You never know, Behringer might be the pathway to the big time, then the money for the good stuff will be there.
Y'know, Treena, just because one thing sucks, it doesn't mean something else doesn't.
Y'know, Treena, just because one thing sucks, it doesn't mean something else doesn't.
I was wondering how you'd respond to that. It's something even I don't understand, but if Butthead said it (and he did), it must be pithy.
I've been using the MX1804X mixer for live sound with very good results. It's a small private venue, mainly with ethnic music.
I've recorded to minidisc direct off of it, and the recording was fine. However, when I recorded off of it to my Akai DPS16, I started to realize that it's not a good recording mixer. It wasn't so much noise, but rather that the mixer adds a slightly sharp, tinny aspect to the output. This wasn't apparent live, as I fixed the EQ for the venue.
I've heard comment that earlier Behringer product was better sounding, and that the new stuff, which has greater component integration and is made in Asia, sounds inferior.
I've recorded to minidisc direct off of it, and the recording was fine. However, when I recorded off of it to my Akai DPS16, I started to realize that it's not a good recording mixer. It wasn't so much noise, but rather that the mixer adds a slightly sharp, tinny aspect to the output. This wasn't apparent live, as I fixed the EQ for the venue.
I've heard comment that earlier Behringer product was better sounding, and that the new stuff, which has greater component integration and is made in Asia, sounds inferior.
My opinion of behringer varies wildly.
I find the mixers do sound very sharp, and having used much much much better equipment, wouldn't pay anything for them. i don't rate mackie or the cheaper yamahas either tho. I currently have 2 A&Hs, which i like, although i would absolutely LOVE a cadac, or a midas.
But if you're looking for something to start with, they do the job, and some people remain happy with them, why not try and demo one in a store? if it works for you, that's what counts.
other behringer equipment i have used:
DI boxes, the best deal you can get, and when they break coz you've launched them across a stage too many times, you get a new one, nice and cheap, fairly hardwearing.
Ultracurve, lots of features for the price, but i don't like the sound of the EQ, personally, i find that if you run things through loud speakers, you can hear artifacts left from the digital eq. many people don't seem to be able to hear it though, or maybe they're too used to Mp3 compression?
Multicomp, have used this and the Pro XL version, both "did the job" but then started getting far too noisy. good for the initial money, but then you have to replace them not long after...
Intelligate, pretty much the same as the compressors, but even noisier, sounded like it was adding white noise while closing the gate...
Super-X (crossover), 2 units purchased at the same time, died together 6 months later.
V-Amp Pro (guitar), lots of fun, get some good(ish) sounds, hasn't died on me yet, great value.
MX8500 Mics, i got these to test them as i couldn't believe the reviews they were getting, i still don't believe them, they don't sound the same as the 58s, and the worst thing about them (for live sound at least) is the off axis rejection is TERRIBLE, so you can't put any vocals in the monitors.
i've tried to be fair, and i'll still buy behringer DI boxes, and i'm willing to give any product a go, but as a general rule, I stay away from most of their gear. but there are always exceptions.
I find the mixers do sound very sharp, and having used much much much better equipment, wouldn't pay anything for them. i don't rate mackie or the cheaper yamahas either tho. I currently have 2 A&Hs, which i like, although i would absolutely LOVE a cadac, or a midas.
But if you're looking for something to start with, they do the job, and some people remain happy with them, why not try and demo one in a store? if it works for you, that's what counts.
other behringer equipment i have used:
DI boxes, the best deal you can get, and when they break coz you've launched them across a stage too many times, you get a new one, nice and cheap, fairly hardwearing.
Ultracurve, lots of features for the price, but i don't like the sound of the EQ, personally, i find that if you run things through loud speakers, you can hear artifacts left from the digital eq. many people don't seem to be able to hear it though, or maybe they're too used to Mp3 compression?
Multicomp, have used this and the Pro XL version, both "did the job" but then started getting far too noisy. good for the initial money, but then you have to replace them not long after...
Intelligate, pretty much the same as the compressors, but even noisier, sounded like it was adding white noise while closing the gate...
Super-X (crossover), 2 units purchased at the same time, died together 6 months later.
V-Amp Pro (guitar), lots of fun, get some good(ish) sounds, hasn't died on me yet, great value.
MX8500 Mics, i got these to test them as i couldn't believe the reviews they were getting, i still don't believe them, they don't sound the same as the 58s, and the worst thing about them (for live sound at least) is the off axis rejection is TERRIBLE, so you can't put any vocals in the monitors.
i've tried to be fair, and i'll still buy behringer DI boxes, and i'm willing to give any product a go, but as a general rule, I stay away from most of their gear. but there are always exceptions.
