Bergantino 112

While the AE410 is mid present, it is a KILLER cab for a 5 string bass. It goes plenty low and has great mechanical capability to pound the all important first harmonic of the B string.

There are VERY few cabs that put out any meaningful output down to the fundamental of an open B.

Adding a single 112 to 410 would be a strange thing to do, since the SPL of the 410 would BURY virtually any 112.

Turn up the bass knob and be happy. IMO, that cab can handle WAY more power than you are putting into it, which might be part of the issue of your lack of happiness with the B string. Take your AE410 to a Guitar Center that has a GK MB800 or MBF800 in stock, and post back up

 

As usual +1 to all above. KJ rarely gets this stuff wrong.

 

PS If you want a TOTALLY different tone (i.e., more wide, relaxed, deeper and less bright), that is a legitimate goal of course, and in Berg-Land, two HD112's or an HD212 would get you there quite nicely. Even the CN212 has a bit more going on down low than the AE410, and is even lighter. I replaced my AE410 (which I still liked very much) with the CN212... similar punch, but a bit more true low end extension, and a bit more even in the midrange, and 10 pounds lighter and smaller with about the same max output.

 

I'm pretty good at answering the 'soft ball' questions, but when I'm wrong, I'm usually REALLY wrong

 

I won't hold my breath.

 

I'm still trying to decide between going for a TH500 with either

2x CN112
CN212
2xHD112

 

Strange. I wonder if there is a problem somewhere in the signal chain. I was never, ever able to push those drivers to break-up down low, and I lay on the B string on occasion. Again, don't get hung up with that -10db low end spec. It means very little, since most of the meat of even the lowest note of the B string (the open B) has most of its energy in the first harmonic, which is 60hz or so.

That being said, it definitely is a tightly voiced cab, designed for more mid punch and low mid push than a big open low end, so it might just not be your thing. If you put massive low end into that cab (like with a Mesa M6 or M9, which cranks out massive sub 40hz volume), you can get it to fold when digging in on the B string (although those heads would fold most cabs!).

Might just not be the thing for you. Good luck getting it figured out.

 

What do you feel the advantage of mixing the HD210 with the HD112 is?

IMHO if those are the cabs on your radar, I would look at getting two of the HD210's and stacking them vertically.

 

+1 Actually, in his case, two HD112's, since the HD10's are closer to the tight, punchy voicing of the AE410 that he's having trouble with.

 

He has the HD210/HD112 combo exactly? Have you actually played through the speakers with your amp and bass?

What was meant by a "clean signal path" has nothing to do with cables. It sounds like you are overdriving some stage of your amplificaiton (i.e. into the front end of the pre, or into the frot end of the power section). Side note, are you using a speaker cable between your amp and cab or are you using an insturment cable?

 

/sigh

its not about the condition of the amp, but how you yourself are setting the gain stages and eq.

You can take the "best" rig in the world and turn the knobs in such a way that it wont sound pleasing to you regardless of how well you play.

 

You could be over driving the input of your amp? Or maybe you are not setting your gain EQ in the correct way.

As far as the settings recommended by any one else, manufacturer included, if it doesnt sound good then they are wrong. Dont look at the knob position, just turn them till you like the sound.