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Bergantino B/Amp at NAMM

#201
You're starting to loose me here. . . . I don't want to be fiddling around with "frequencies" and "db's" on a dark stage in the middle of a song. Or accidentally hit a button and start the launch sequence to lift off. . . . !

I want a simple pot I can change (a lot or a little) in a 4 beat break.
 
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#202
chris_b said:
You're starting to loose me here. . . . I don't want to be fiddling around with "frequencies" and "db's" on a dark stage in the middle of a song. Or accidentally hit a button and start the launch sequence to lift off. . . . !

I want a simple pot I can change (a lot or a little) in a 4 beat break.
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I think that describes how most of us feel when dealing with gear on the gig: when we need to change something, we like to have a simple and predictable set of tools. With all of the talk about the extra functionality of the controls on the B|amp, it is worth repeating that this amp's interface operates in the same manner as any other- and you don't have to tweak any of the eq points or filters unless you choose to.
 
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BassinCT said:
I think that describes how most of us feel when dealing with gear on the gig: when we need to change something, we like to have a simple and predictable set of tools. With all of the talk about the extra functionality of the controls on the B|amp, it is worth repeating that this amp's interface operates in the same manner as any other- and you don't have to tweak any of the eq points or filters unless you choose to.
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True. Maybe the point is that the non-twiddlers are looking for reasons to consider this premium amp that don't involve dB tweaks and firmware updates.

I didn't really spend enough time with it to be able to offer much more than: flat/clean, plenty of volume and high-quality form factor.
 
#206
Wow! Not exactly a sales pitch to the Luddites though :-)

I reckon this amp could be a plug and play champ, especially if you run Berg cabs. I would love to hear it live sometime.

I'm so happy with the MB800 tones....would be really interesting to hear how the B amp compares in a live context. In the shop, the Berg seemed flatter and more refined...the GK seemed more aggressive and alive.
 
#208
Jim's B|amp design is one that stands out in the crowd- and there is some good company in the MI amplification these days!

I'm pleased to see the distribution of this gear widening. Connecticut next?;) I really want to try one with my ER/EX combo.
 
#209
Peredur said:
Thanks! As a doubler I find the programmable eq etc very exciting. Sometimes I bring DB/plank/uke to a gig so more than two memory slots would be great. Even if I am just doubling then more than two slots would be great just for different EQ/FX blends. It would also be superb to have them footswitchable. I realise that this is an ever expanding feature set, but it does not hurt to ask.
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More memory slots probably won't happen, but it's a really sweet doubler rig. There's a feature on it (nobody panic, if you don't want to deal, you can totally forget it's there!) for a variable high-pass filter and feedback filter to kill what bugs you on upright! (Or plank, uke, string tuba, V8 cello, whatever)
 
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Like @soxhats I'm following this with interest. I doubt I'd be able to afford this either. ..espesh with the horrible prices here in Aus.:vomit::banghead::crying:
But it sounds like it'll be a very cool piece of kit! I'm sure not a "twiddler" but having the flexible eq points to dial out a troublesome frequency = very handy. No leads to a foot switch. ..Great! :cool:
I'll just have to hope someone bus one here in Aus, then hates it and sells it to me at a silly price. :woot:
I know. I'm dreaming. ..Right? :(
 
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#211
bass nitro said:
Hey,Munjibunga how would you describe this amp sounds like?Toward "hi-fi",SS amp sounding or warm (tube like )side to?
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Hi-fi, SS sounding. But not "sterile" or "brittle." It's very rich sounding, yet not overly colored. You get deep bottom end, the mids are present but not dominant, and the highs are very clean. Since all four EQ points are semi-parametric, you can tailor a very wide range of tones, including "warm." I found the EQ to be very responsive, and big tweaks are not necessary to get to your tone, whatever it is. If you want a more vintage, mid rich starting tone, try something like the Tone Hammer 500.
 
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rodl2005 said:
Like @soxhats I'm following this with interest. I doubt I'd be able to afford this either. ..espesh with the horrible prices here in Aus.:vomit::banghead::crying:
But it sounds like it'll be a very cool piece of kit! I'm sure not a "twiddler" but having the flexible eq points to dial out a troublesome frequency = very handy. No leads to a foot switch. ..Great! :cool:
I'll just have to hope someone bus one here in Aus, then hates it and sells it to me at a silly price. :woot:
I know. I'm dreaming. ..Right? :(
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Dunno - this is looking a lot like the last amp I'll buy (famous last words). But I'm not in Australia so the point is moot.
 
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George Himmel said:
More memory slots probably won't happen, but it's a really sweet doubler rig. There's a feature on it (nobody panic, if you don't want to deal, you can totally forget it's there!) for a variable high-pass filter and feedback filter to kill what bugs you on upright! (Or plank, uke, string tuba, V8 cello, whatever)
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You know, this amp also would sound fantastic as a guitar amp with the right cab.
 
#214
chris_b said:
You're starting to loose me here. . . . I don't want to be fiddling around with "frequencies" and "db's" on a dark stage in the middle of a song. Or accidentally hit a button and start the launch sequence to lift off. . . . !

I want a simple pot I can change (a lot or a little) in a 4 beat break.
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... and you have exactly that. As I stated before, the default screen on the amp is the 4-band EQ - one knob for each frequency (bass - mid1 - mid2 - treble). There is no need to mess with anything else. When you're playing around with the amp at home, you can adjust the center frequencies to your taste. Once you have a sound you like, you can assign it to one of the two memories - or not. The amp is as simple or versatile as you want it to be.
 
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CaptainWally said:
Wow! Not exactly a sales pitch to the Luddites though :)

I reckon this amp could be a plug and play champ, especially if you run Berg cabs. I would love to hear it live sometime.

I'm so happy with the MB800 tones....would be really interesting to hear how the B amp compares in a live context. In the shop, the Berg seemed flatter and more refined...the GK seemed more aggressive and alive.
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Dunno - I found them more similar than dissimilar. I've spent a couple hours now with the Berg (and many gigs with the MB800), and I like the full-range response of the Berg - it has a very "natural" sound. Tonally, it would be hard for me to say one sounds better than the other, but the feature set is a selling point for me. I know the features aren't important to everybody, but the B-Amp is the kind of amp you can grow into. Use it as a simple 4-band amp at first, then explore the features as you get used to it. The first time you get a big wolf on a Bb on a difficult stage at sound check, you're going to be thrilled that you can push the filter button, choose Bb, reduce it by 4 dB, and bye-bye wolf. But again, you don't have to.
 
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Munjibunga said:
Dunno - I found them more similar than dissimilar. I've spent a couple hours now with the Berg (and many gigs with the MB800), and I like the full-range response of the Berg - it has a very "natural" sound. Tonally, it would be hard for me to say one sounds better than the other, but the feature set is a selling point for me. I know the features aren't important to everybody, but the B-Amp is the kind of amp you can grow into. Use it as a simple 4-band amp at first, then explore the features as you get used to it. The first time you get a big wolf on a Bb on a difficult stage at sound check, you're going to be thrilled that you can push the filter button, choose Bb, reduce it by 4 dB, and bye-bye wolf. But again, you don't have to.
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Actually, that's not true. Bergantino has inducted a team of "enforcers" that will be dispatched to ensure copious B|Amp twiddling by purchasers. Refraining from doing so will result in severe punishment.
 

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