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Bergantino's Vertical 410!!!!!

If I learn from this to be prepared for the next special release then I am disciplined; if I am disciplined then I am become a disciple.

(Oh, I won't capitalize it so as not to embarrass anyone.)
 
If I learn from this to be prepared for the next special release then I am disciplined; if I am disciplined then I am become a disciple.

(Oh, I won't capitalize it so as not to embarrass anyone.)
Huh?
 
And thus it had to be eliminated, LOL!;-)
It was a limited production run, like the previous 610 (toward which I also gazed longingly, but for too long, alas).

"If I learn from this" means if I prepare to grab the next limited run quickly.
"I am become" is a very old-fashioned construction I got second-hand from Oppenheimer.
A disciple is one who is disciplined, who follows rules (such as "move quickly when Bergantino puts out a limited run").
I wouldn't presume to deserve the capitalized form, Disciple. Yet.

But I know you said "Huh?" just for fun. :-)
 
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It was a limited production run, like the previous 610 (toward which I also gazed longingly, but for too long, alas).

"If I learn from this" means if I prepare to grab the next limited run quickly.
"I am become" is a very old-fashioned construction I got second-hand from Oppenheimer.
A disciple is one who is disciplined, who follows rules (such as "move quickly when Bergantino puts out a limited run").
I wouldn't presume to deserve the capitalized form, Disciple. Yet.

But I know you said "Huh?" just for fun. :-)
Completely missed the references!
 
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My main point is that unless you’ve played thru the cab, you really can’t equate the spec to the experience.
Based on my own experiences, I think this is a great point in general and not just for a speaker cab . Being an engineer I admit that I sometimes focus a lot on specs, but I also recognize that an audience and my bandmates don't hear specifications, they hear the product.

I have been surprised more than once by how much I liked one product over another and they both had the same specifications. Many of us talk about not just voicing or sound but also feel. As far as I know there is no good specification to describe feel, and that is something that definitely affects my playing.

As always, mileage varies...even when two different people are driving the exact same car on the exact same road. :)
 
Once upon a time, Eden had this combo…
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Plus a separate cab only(tilt back and roll).
 
……I have been surprised more than once by how much I liked one product over another and they both had the same specifications. Many of us talk about not just voicing or sound but also feel. As far as I know there is no good specification to describe feel, and that is something that definitely affects my playing…….
+1 regarding feel. It’s difficult to measure or convey—really need to experience different amp/cab combinations and discover for one’s self..

In my case, note-weight/feel is a definite priority. I find it really enhances my playing; creativity; enjoyment factor. My SVT, V4B, and Berg Ultra provide it in spades, and to my ears…coax the most dynamics or liveliness out of my cab’s. Ultra/NV410T has been a superb pairing!
 
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Mr. Bergantino,

I'm hopeful you'll keep this diagonal/vertical NV410T design available, (as I believe this is a vastly improved design from the standard square cab 410.)

Maybe also a ported NXT version for players who prefer ported cabinet tuning.

Available in 4 or 8 ohms, burgundy or black covering, metal grill.
 
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Mr. Bergantino,

I'm hopeful you'll keep this diagonal/vertical NV410T design available, (as I believe this is a vastly improved design from the standard square cab 410.)

Maybe also a ported NXT version for players who prefer ported cabinet tuning.

Available in 4 or 8 ohms, burgundy or black covering, metal grill.
Would you like fries with that too!;-}
 
Back from my first gig with the NV410T. It performed amazingly! It was not quite as huge sounding as my ported cabs, maybe because of less deep lows and also because it is so focused where the ported cabs are of wider and a bit blurry in comparison. But there was plenty of low end, and it was more intelligible, especially on the lower notes. That combined with the punchiness meant that it cut through the mix at a lower volume than I would have expected. Fingerstyle was growly and full, and slap was just beautiful and funky!

So happy with this cab! Thanks @Jim Bergantino!
 
I use a HPF with my ported cab to make the lows more focused and appreciate how much an intelligible low end blends better with the kick to define the envelope of the groove. A bloated woofy low end is frustrating to deal with. Nice that this cab gets you in the right place to start with. Unfortunately, my lower back limits me to 45 lbs. If I could manage the weight this looks like an excellent cab to gig with.
 
Hey, hasn't anyone started a thread on the new NV312T?

EDIT: See the Bergantino thread here.

I tried to "practice what I preached", above, a true "leap of faith", but paying via Apple Pay wasn't working (yet?).
Also tried to create an account and log in, and that didn't work for me either. "Temporarily locked out". Well, ok.
 
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Hey, hasn't anyone started a thread on the new NV312T?

I tried to "practice what I preached", above, a true "leap of faith", but paying via Apple Pay wasn't working (yet?).
Also tried to create an account and log in, and that didn't work for me either. "Temporarily locked out". Well, ok.
Call or email Bergantino, they'll sort you out. Pinging @Jim Bergantino for you
 
Almost a year later, this is still my favorite gig cabinet ever.

Caveat: I never did a direct A/B with my beloved NV610 -- this would be too logistically difficult to do at a gig, or even in gig conditions (I'm a condo dweller). But the NV410T gives me NV610 magic in a MUCH more gig-friendly package: it's just as tall, and the reduced weight is invaluable. Just as importantly, the narrow footprint allows me to bring it to every gig, even when it's more cab than I need (I know how to operate a volume knob)!

So far the 410 has easily provided all the volume I need even in loud conditions. The acid test will be this Saturday, as I have an outdoor gig with my "stoopid loud rock band" where I'd normally bring the NV610. The NV410 should be sufficient, but the bottom line is that after 20 years I'm finally done competing with those idiots (drummer and guitarist): if they don't care about bass in the mix then I won't either. They went from being my busiest band to my least busy band in part because of their volume. Post-pandemic, bars seem to have less tolerance for that nonsense.

Complaining aside: the NV410T is perfect for me. I'm sure I'd also love the NV312T, but I preferred NV610 to NV412 so I'm glad I jumped on the 410. :)