Best $600 rig?

[HMZ]

Eden Nemesis NC-210 250 watts two 10" speakers. Call Bass Central for the best price.

 

[Headroom]

I'd recommend getting $1,000 worth of amplification gear for $600.


Buy used.

 

[Geezerman]

I'd go with 2 steal sound 212's and a peavey firebass...

 

[The 0x]

Plus, you can add an extension cab at a later date

Actually, you can add two of their 8 ohm extension cabs.

 

[srxplayer]

Quadzilla has a Peavey Max 450 for sale in the classifieds. There is no price posted but you could PM him for a price.

If he still has it.

 

[Beefbass]

Actually, you can add two of their 8 ohm extension cabs.

Very true!

You could eventually add 2 of the XC115XC cabs, for the full 200 watts out of 3 15's. Which is good if thats your thing(personally, I like 15's)

 

[bassist15]

How would a Ashdown MAG 300 and a UL112 Epifani cab sound together. Would that would out well for someone?

 

[Crescent Seven]

How would a Ashdown MAG 300 and a UL112 Epifani cab sound together. Would that would out well for someone?

It would work out well, but I would personally want more power for that cab.
That combination would be like dropping a Chevy motor in a BMW.
C7

 

[Figjam]

I tihnk the ashdown with the epi would work great. That combination of brands works well. Unfortuantely, the ashdown at 8 ohms is only 180 watts, which is probably what crescent seven was refering to. Id want to go for a 4 ohm cab if I were you.

The ashdown/avatar thing works well, too. And you'd have your choice of speaker configs.

 

[Snarf]

Eden Nemesis NC-210 250 watts two 10" speakers. Call Bass Central for the best price.

+1 on the Nemesis. I have a really old 115 combo that really cranks. They make em smaller, lighter, and louder now, same amazing tone too. This would actually be easier to lug around than a 2-piece setup.

 

[EricF]

I liked my GK Backline 600 just fine, but the Ashdown is certainly a smart call too. Skip the GK cab and go with an Avatar.

 

[jtlee]

Man, as much as I like Yamaha, you can get a brand
spankin new Carvin B500 on ebay for $380 shipped
to your door with a warranty.
Then you could check out some 4 ohm cabs, for instance
the yamaha cabs above, but one can buy a BBT210 for
$200(I believe shipped?)as opposed to $300 for 2 BBT110 which makes absolutely no sense to me(except the 2 ohm arg./which I don't think is valid for 2 single 10s)
Just a thought and not any advice!!!!

The reason 2 BBT110S cabs are better than 1 BBT210S is because they've got beefier speakers. If you see the power handling capacity, both the 1x10 and 2x10 handle 250W RMS. I've tried both cabs and while the 1x10 sounds fantastic, the 210 sounded a bit thinner...more volume for sure, just the tone was lacking. Plus, there's the portability issue; the 1x10's weight substantially less AND the Yamaha head weighs only 11 lbs.

 

[CrUiSeR]

Less(weight) isn't always better! Hey, lets face it, two 10s
by their lonesome isn't going to get the booty movin' like it
would if the two 10s were sittin on top of a 2x15.
I have owned several pieces of yamaha gear and have not
owned any thing carvin,but I would buy the carvin b500 overthe yamaha bbt head. But then again I would buy
the yamaha bbt over the ashdown mag or
gk backline any day of the week.
If used wasn't a problem I would say definitely check out
a Eden wt400, gk800rb or the above mentioned max450
Just my opinion and nothing more.

 

[jtlee]

Less(weight) isn't always better! Hey, lets face it, two 10s
by their lonesome isn't going to get the booty movin' like it
would if the two 10s were sittin on top of a 2x15.
I have owned several pieces of yamaha gear and have not
owned any thing carvin,but I would buy the carvin b500 overthe yamaha bbt head. But then again I would buy
the yamaha bbt over the ashdown mag or
gk backline any day of the week.
If used wasn't a problem I would say definitely check out
a Eden wt400, gk800rb or the above mentioned max450
Just my opinion and nothing more.

I guess you haven't played any of the newer cabs out there. 2x15's are archaic remnants of testosterone laden rock bands who want the looks. Bigger does not mean better or louder these days . My two Yamaha BBT110S cabs kick out WAY more volume than most 2x10 cabs I've tried (including an Eden 210XLT) and my Acme B2 and B4 cabs will get the walls shaking faster than cabs twice their size. It's about good design, not bulk.

As for Carvin, I like their products in general and the BRX series amps are the best they've done so far, but the issue with Carvin stuff is the warranty service (have to mail it back it to CA) and the power amp reliability issues and over-rating of wattage. I live by the Carvin store and go in there a bunch, FWIW.

I'd buy the Yamaha over the Carvin any day. To me less weight + higher quality tone is MUCH BETTER THAN booty shakin, high volume mud with a sore back. And I've owned many of those gigantic monstrosities (6x10, 8x10,8x8,etc). Just my $.02 as well.

 

[CrUiSeR]

Well the only reason I mentioned the bbt cabinets in the first place is because you brought them up and the cabinets are a great price right now. Yeah, I'd take one of those Edens or Acmes over the Yamaha.
I didn't say bigger means better or louder! So you don't care about looks?! So lets see; Ampeg, Bergantino, Eden, Marshall, Mesa, Sunn, SWR, Trace etc 2X15s are archaic, hmm he did mention Flea and I know the first time I saw him he was playin' through a mesa 2x15s(and 2X10s). I have no idea what he plays through now(nor do I care).
So if I would have said 1X15 would that have been better?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Defend the faith and your purchase, believe me I understand.

 

[will33]

GabeN, lots of good suggestions here but what kind of music are you looking to play or do want something versatile or just plain power with good bass?

 

[GabeN]

I play mostly rock/metal/funk and I'm looking for something powerful with some versatility. I'm looking for a setup that's really articulate but had a heavy bottom end. I played through an Ampeg 1x15 and while it was good for bottom end, it was really muddy and indestinct. Does a tweeter on a cab help higher end articulationism (it's not a word but it should be) much?

 

[georgestrings]

I'd recommend getting $1,000 worth of amplification gear for $600.


Buy used.

I agree - specifically, used Peavey... In my area(upstate NY), I'd have no problem finding a used Mark VI or VIII and a 410TXF in that price range - then later on add another cab if you want, and you'd be all set for even the largest gigs... I play fairly large outdoor shows with my rig, against either a full stack Marshall or 2 half stacks - depending on which band - and I'm never lacking for sound from my bass rig - great tone, TONS of clean power...


- georgestrings

 

[kitcar765]

ashdown rock!
and peavey are prety solid too,
have a good look at second hand gear, i got an ashdown 8x10 for £260

 

[jtlee]

Well the only reason I mentioned the bbt cabinets in the first place is because you brought them up and the cabinets are a great price right now. Yeah, I'd take one of those Edens or Acmes over the Yamaha.
I didn't say bigger means better or louder! So you don't care about looks?! So lets see; Ampeg, Bergantino, Eden, Marshall, Mesa, Sunn, SWR, Trace etc 2X15s are archaic, hmm he did mention Flea and I know the first time I saw him he was playin' through a mesa 2x15s(and 2X10s). I have no idea what he plays through now(nor do I care).
So if I would have said 1X15 would that have been better?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Defend the faith and your purchase, believe me I understand.

Umm...I have no idea what you're trying to get at...your reply was a bit all over the place. Anyway, I was just trying to address your "Less(weight) isn't always better!" quote. I respectfully disagree. I think less weight is ALWAYS better as long as you don't sacrifice tone. And if you notice the trend right now, most amp manufacturers are really trying to minimize weight while maximizing volume & clarity; lighter and more efficient speakers and better boxes. That's why I've chosen the dual 1x10 setup; I don't need to "look cool", I just want to sound cool. Besides the vast majority of us are not going to be playing venues that warrant gigantic rigs. How stupid does it look when you're playing a room that holds 100 people and you've got an 8x10 and your idiot guitar player has a full stack cramped on a tiny stage so you can barely move? Especially when you're already running DI's/mikes to the board!

I just want the OP to get the idea that he doesn't need to go
big to get big sound. That's the jist of it.