Best 610

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Flipper, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. Flipper


    Jan 11, 2005
    Spring, Texas
    Getting ready to do my first ever 610 cab and new amp. Cabs for consideration: Thunderfunk's new one (only know what's on their website), Eden 610XLT(too heavy), Epifani(Nice and light On the short list), Schroeder 610 (definite maybe), also the 310212 light, and the Glockenklang (heavy). They all are within a couple of hundred bucks, so I guess I'm just looking for a little pro and con, horror stories, etc.

    Will be using an as-yet-to-be determined preamp/power amp setup. Probably SWR Grand Prix and Stewart 1.2 or 2.1.

  2. IvanMike

    IvanMike TTRPG enthusiast, Happy, Joyous, & Free. Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Middletown CT, USA
    any reason it has to be a 610?

    for year i used a 410 and 210 (both 8 ohms) i brought as much cab as i needed to each gig. Despite what you think, it didn't sound weird having equal power going to the 410 and 210.

    to be honest, if i decided i needed six tens i would get a couple of epifani 310 cabs. :D
  3. Thornton Davis

    Thornton Davis

    Dec 11, 1999
    Check out the Genz-Benz GB610T-XB2. I've seen them selling on Ebay for very reasonable prices lately. It's a great cabinet supported by the best customer support staff in the industry.

  4. Echo, echo, echo! I'm all about flexibility, but my gigs tend to run from duets to large R&B bands. I've got 8-ohm 410's and a 210, and mix & match as needed. Ideally, I would love to have another 310 so I could set 'em up side-by-each, as opposed to stacking the 210 on top of the 410.
  5. shoot-r


    May 26, 2007
    Of the one's you listed I'd look hard at the Schroeder. Slightly taller than a normal 410, weighs less than a normal 410, huge out-put.
    I know you said it was to heavy, but I played a job awhile back where the furnished bass amp was a Eden WT800 head into a Eden 610XLT cab....WOW!!!! "BEST" amp I've ever played through!
    For us cheapskates I wish Avatar would come out with a inexpensive 610.
  6. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005
    I'm gigging through a Mesa Powerhouse 610 these days, and am really liking it...

    - georgestrings
  7. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005
    I can't speak for the OP, but after gigging with the 210 + 410 set-up for 2 years, I don't miss having to carry in the 210 after rolling in the 410... I *thought* the option of using either or both cabs would be a plus, but after awhile realized that dragging both to every gig - because I really like playing through (6) tens - was a hassle I didn't need...

    I still kept the 210 + 410 setup, but use it mainly for rehearsals these days...

    - georgestrings
  8. rpsands


    Jul 6, 2007
    The Ampeg 6x10 HLF is an amazing cab for the 400-500 bucks used. Sounds better than anything else they make by leaps and bounds.
  9. shoot-r


    May 26, 2007
    +1. Just about every bass amp manufacturer I can think of now has a 610 available.
  10. 4-string


    Jul 23, 2006
    +1 on the Schroeder. I actually wouldn't mind if it were a bit taller, but the light weight is great. Loud as hell, too.
  11. MHensleyJr

    MHensleyJr Supporting Member

    May 5, 2008
    Redlands, CA
    I used to have an SWR goliath sr. It was nice, but way too heavy.

    People around here seem to like the NV610...
  12. One Drop

    One Drop

    Oct 10, 2004
    Swiss Alps
    You might want to add the Bergantino NV610 to your shortlist. Amazing cab with great tone and very maneuvrable.

    Not the right cab for you if you want a modern sounding one with lots of sizzle, but it makes all the noises I want to hear, mainly powerful rich mids, very pleasant highs, tight full lows and low-mids, and punchy as heck.
  13. The Markbass classic 610 gets a lot of love.. light and punchy from what I've been told. Of course, the NV610 is awesome from Bergantino.

    If you don't mind size and weight (it's BIG and it's HEAVY), I recently played a Mesa Boogie Powerhouse 610 that made me want to slap somebody's momma.
  14. Vinny D

    Vinny D

    Jan 9, 2007
    Warwick, RI
    IMO the weight of a 610 cab is not a deal breaker, most if not all of them are tilt and roll designs making them easier to move around then most 410 cabs.
    I used my Eden D610xlt for over a year in every club I worked at, including clubs with stairs. The only modification I made to the cab was adding skid rails (hopefully Eden and a few other mfg's start including these on the cabs as standard equipment). With the added skid rails getting the heavy 610 up and down stairs was pretty easy, to go down stairs I simply laid the cab down and slid it down the stairs. Going back up was just as easy, lay the cab with it's back against the stairs and easily pushed it back up.
    Most 610 cabs will easily tip onto the tailgate of a pickup truck or with a slight lift from the bootom of the cab can be loaded into a truck or van with ease.

    It is a beautiful thing when you get to stand in front of a thumping 610 cab at a gig!:D
  15. Tim1


    Sep 9, 2005
    New Zealand
    Has to be the Berg NV610 - beats hands down any other 610 or 810 I have placed by its side. Incredibly easy to shift around too, 100 pounds with a tiltback and grabrail.
  16. Flipper


    Jan 11, 2005
    Spring, Texas
    Hey, Thanks for all the replies.

    Would like to be a single cab due to the fact that I'm 6'5" and I have a hard time "hearing" stuff that goes past my knees. I thought a taller rig might help. The two 310s is intriguing, I just feel like it might be overly complicated (for me).

    The size and weight of the Schroeder looks good. Played through a 410 and it was smokin'. Don't have a price for those on their website. Anyone know what they run?

    Love the boogie tone. I had one of the Diesel cabs years ago. Two man lift...

    Okay I'll give the Ampeg another look. How much do they weigh?

    I've never even stood in front of a Bergantino product of any type. I'm sure they're great if this many of you guys like them. I just don't have any reference. I'll see if I can't find one.

    I forgot about the Mark Bass. Looks like all the 610 cabs are to be discontinued. Anyone find that worrisome?

    As to portability, to and from a gig I'll have to move this by myself. I know that most of these have the hand-truck-like operation, so you never really take all the weight. what it boils down to is getting old sucks.

    Oh yeah, I almost forgot, the only thing putting me off the Genz Benz is the weight. Right now I play through a NEOX 212 and a GBE600. Some of the most under-rated gear in the industry if you ask me. And you're right, probably the best service too.
  17. The Markbass cab I was suggesting is the Classic610, not the ported models that are being discontinued. I can see why they would discontinue the more modern, ported 610's. It seems the market for 610's is more for the fridge guys who want a more classic, sealed tone and are tired of Ampeg size, weight, and I guess lack of quality at this point. For the 'modern, ported' guys, it's a rare gig that a good quality 410 can't do.

    Anyway, people who's ears I repect have reported that the Markbass classic 610 is pretty killer, so might be worth a try if there is a GC close to you.
  18. rpsands


    Jul 6, 2007
    I believe the Ampeg weighs around 100lbs. Check their site. It's also got a dolly system with tilt backs of course.
  19. yamaha

    yamaha Guest

    Apr 7, 2006
    I really like my Goliath sr. I play rock, soft and hard, classic rock, and top 40. All sound great with the Sr.. It is on the heavy side, but much easyer to carry around than my 8x10 Megoliath. Worth it for tone I'd say.

    Do look at Bergantino. My HS410 sounds amazing.
  20. Flipper


    Jan 11, 2005
    Spring, Texas
    Yeah I guess if I go to GC I can try the Ampeg and the Markbass back to back. I've always thought of myself as a "modern ported" kinda player, but i'll try them and get back to you...

    100 lbs isn't a deal breaker, but when I think about the SWR, Eden, or any of the others that say 130+...Hard to think that there isn't some 70lb cab that can get close tone wise and be FIFTY POUNDS lighter.

    K, i'm bringing bottles to my next rehearsal and checking the tune of an empty...