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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by SafetyBean, Feb 19, 2008.
(I apologise deeply if this has been posted but I looked...)
You saw the title
Metal has bass?
Haha. Where did you look exactly?...
How much are you willing to spend?
How loud do you need to be IE what kind of gigs are you playing?
Head/cabinet or combo?
What bass/onboard preamp controls do you have?
What strings do you use?
Do you play a 4-string or a 5, etc.
Fretted bass or fretless?
What kind of amps are your guitarists using (helps cut you through the mix)?
And most of all:
What tone are you going for?
Here are some threads I found my simply searching "amp metal":
Are you going distorted or clean? A lot of metal guys use Ampeg SVT's, and a lot of metal guys use SWR 750x's. Also Trace Elliott stuff, I think.
I could never understand that question,
" What's the best (fill in the blank) for metal"?
What does metal sound like that it's so different from everything else?
I use solid state power for metal because IMO with all of the madness with the mix in metal bass needs more precision than most tube amps can produce.
I run a Peavey tour 700 with a QSC 2400 watt power amp into a Basson 8x10 cab. It works very well and I am happy with it right now, though I may switch pre amps soon. Does it have to be a single package head or could you go the power amp + pre amp separate route?
My band played with another metal band this weekend and their bassist had a Tube Screamer pedal going through his hybrid amp and it was the best distortion I think I've ever heard from a bass rig, if you're looking on going with some distortion.
I'd say I'm not really running what many would think of as a "metal" rig. Look at my sig and you'll see my setup.
EBS has become quite popular in Europe for metal metal bands, but I personally think you can play any music with any brand of amp provided it has enough speakers and power for you to hear yourself...
whats more important is getting the tone you are looking for by finding an amp that works towards that, given the rest of the gear you use...
Right now what's getting it done quite well for me is a Peavey T-Max into a Peavey 210TVX and a 410 TVX - and either a VMJ with DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pups in series, or a Spector Q5 Pro - depend on how low I have to go...
I have also used the 410 as a top cab, and an 1810 as a bottom cab with excellent results...
Any amp can do metal. You should be asking;
"What is the best amp for a _____ sound"
Are you looking for distorted tone? Clean and hifi? The genre has absolutely nothing to do with what amp/bass you need. I play metal and I use an Ampeg SVT3-PRO w/ SVT-410HLF. Works nice, sounds very smooth with my Ibanez and can get very agressive and sometimes even distorted with my Stingray.
It's all in the EQing pal, just try out a few brands and see what works for you.
Anyone who has a basson 8x10 is automatically "metal" because they can actually move the thing from rig to rig. That's pretty metal if you ask me... plus Nikki Sixx uses them.
Any Ampeg Preamp with a graphic eq, and power amp. Just boost those mids, leave all else flat, best metal tone.
Any amp will do, at least 2 overdrives, and wear your bass on your knees so you can dig in with a pick.
well...I play some heavy stuff with my m pulse, I would also opt for a 400+, but you know, you can use any amp you want, I still think its just most important that you get your sound, and that that sound can coexist with the bands overall frequency spectrum!
so theres no one "awsome metal amp" out there!
Ashdown ABM all the way man, fat but not mushy and always cuts through, works for Megadeth, System Of A Down and Foo Fighters et al.
I see a lot of bassists at metal shows that use Ampeg SVTs and 8x10s so I guess thats a pretty widely accepted metal bass sound. Personally I like to throw a 15" into the mix for those really low rumbles, and I never liked messing with tubes, so I use a solid state Ampeg and a 4x10 + 1x15 stack.
The ampeg SVT + 8X10 is the 'standard' for metal, i've just been to a show were all 3 opening bands abssists played through an 810 and a svt
You're telling me. That thing is an absolute beast to move. I'm no small guy at 6 feet 4 inches but that cab is 230 pounds of pure.... heaviness.
But to the OP, I've never liked the classic Ampeg 8x10 sound because it seems a little too mid voiced for me. Like the other guys said, it really depends on what sound you're going for, not what style. Solid state power is my preference because it seems easier to "control." We play a mixture of genres, but in our heavier parts I need my sound to be precise so we don't start sounding like a bunch of mess.