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Best Big Muff Pi variant for bass.

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kesh

Jul 9, 2012
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Brighton, England
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Am building a Big Muff Pi and am a bit unsure which variant to go for.

Several have changes to prevent the mid scoop of standard BMPs, which sounds good, but apart from that I have no idea which would best suit bass.

No low roll off is obviously crucial, with fuzz giving apparent bass roll off anyway I don't want actual loss of my lows.

Anyone any thoughts? I know people here like the Fuzzrocious version of this classic.
 
#2
the fuzzrocious does sound great. myself i like my good ol' ehx big muff.

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My favorite is the Blackout Musket, with the Wren & Cuff Pickle Pie B coming in second.

I haven't had the pleasure of trying all of the "real" Big Muffs, but I do prefer the Black Russian to the newer American Muff. I had a tall font Russian that I liked, but that was a long time ago and I wasn't able to compare between others.
 
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bassgod0dmw said:
My favorite is the Blackout Musket, with the Wren & Cuff Pickle Pie B coming in second.

I haven't had the pleasure of trying all of the "real" Big Muffs, but I do prefer the Black Russian to the newer American Muff. I had a tall font Russian that I liked, but that was a long time ago and I wasn't able to compare between others.
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I thought pickle pie b is based on swollen pickle which is based on fuzzface
 
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willbassyeah said:
I thought pickle pie b is based on swollen pickle which is based on fuzzface
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In what universe is the Swollen Pickle based upon the Fuzz Face?

Anyway, to the OP: I love my green Sovtek Muff. So does Robert Sledge (Ben Folds Five). And Kim Gordon (Sonic Youth, if her divorce didn't end that band). If you're to build a Big Muff clone, that's always a popular one.
 
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andvari7 said:
In what universe is the Swollen Pickle based upon the Fuzz Face?

Anyway, to the OP: I love my green Sovtek Muff. So does Robert Sledge (Ben Folds Five). And Kim Gordon (Sonic Youth, if her divorce didn't end that band). If you're to build a Big Muff clone, that's always a popular one.
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I read somewhere on talkbass but I may remember it wrongly, its a thread on wooly mammoth and people were discussing the fuzz face variant.
 
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Guys...I think your missing the OP's point. He's building a muff.
The version online with a schematic that has the least midscoop is the GGG-tuned (via general guitar gadgets).
That is, unless the OP is buying a muff clone to trace and mod.
Also google "big muff mods" and check out the mids mod to add in mids to kill that midscoop.
 
#12
I'd recommend a Tall Font Russian clone (make sure you use 500pF or two 1nF in parallel for the feedback caps) with an added mids knob. I find there is low roll with the GGG but apart from that it's a great pedal..

Also have a look at the madbean mudbunny boards which make it really easy to add a mid control, with them you'd be looking at the Civil War variant as they don't have the Tall Font listed but their Civil War matches the Tall Font I have here, just remember the 500pf rather than the 470pf listed..
 
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rratajski said:
Guys...I think your missing the OP's point. He's building a muff.
The version online with a schematic that has the least midscoop is the GGG-tuned (via general guitar gadgets).
That is, unless the OP is buying a muff clone to trace and mod.
Also google "big muff mods" and check out the mids mod to add in mids to kill that midscoop.
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yeah, i'm building one from scratch

I have googled, and obviously know how to modify it in a dozen different ways. What i'm interested in is how these things sound, which is hard to judge from a BOM.


Thanks for the GGG tip, I've seen that name recommended elsewhere.

I'm probably going to replace the tone stage with a two knob version, and play with some different diode combinations. I really need to bread board the whole thing and see what I like.
 
#15
IMO, the blackout effectors 'Musket' is a nice BMP variant. it has an additional mid boost/cut control as well as the standard tone control. it also has a 'pre' control that lets you 'load' the input to suit you pickups and a 'focus' control to adjust how much low end goes thru the clipping circuit. i built one and modded it to taste and i think it's a great version of a BMP for use with a bass.
 
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johnk_10 said:
IMO, the blackout effectors 'Musket' is a nice BMP variant. it has an additional mid boost/cut control as well as the standard tone control. it also has a 'pre' control that lets you 'load' the input to suit you pickups and a 'focus' control to adjust how much low end goes thru the clipping circuit. i built one and modded it to taste and i think it's a great version of a BMP for use with a bass.
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The pre control is an LPB1 and the focus control blends between two input caps. Cool mods alright but you'll get more bass through the circuit with larger feedback caps.
 

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