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Big rigs

Everyone is saying it's not metal/rock if there is not a lot of big amps on stage. That's a picture of rock/metal/whatever with big amps/cabs on stage, from a different point of view...
That's an ad for Engl amps that always gets trotted out in these types of discussions. No self-respecting metal band is going to put up a facade. At the very least, they'll put up empty dummy cabs.
 
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Google images is full of those, but, you are right, lots of empty cabs with no backs as well. I only meant it as a lighthearted comment. Did not know it was going to offend people.
 
Metal:

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and a picture of you at a festival playing for that many fans? :p
 
Google images is full of those, but, you are right, lots of empty cabs with no backs as well. I only meant it as a lighthearted comment. Did not know it was going to offend people.
Didn't offend me. It's kind of funny, even if it's an ad. But I'm sure it won't take too long for the really offensive comments to start.
 
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Its funny man. Nikki Sixx used a big ass back drop with cabs painted on it and had 1 4x10 behind it. Its a show, it should look cool! That's the whole point of this! Even a no nonsense band like Metallica early on had stacks!
 
I do not like to see an empty stage at a rock show, but I would much rather see the space used for real entertainment/ visual diversion than unnecessarily bulky gear. When Rush put all those glass chicken rotissery cabinets behind them instead of a bunch of huge boxes I dug it, visually. Why not have cool video or other visual effects/decorations if the players are all using IEMs and the FOH and in ears mix are all state of the art?

For smaller bands without killer FOH/IEMs it's fine, but I sure as hell won't carry it :-)
 
Here's a story of an opposite approach - I was in a band some years back where all of the band members were big time Genesis fans. We "borrowed" the idea from Genesis of hiding our gear on stage by hanging black parachute fabric in front of our backline. We used to get comments on how good we sounded given that we had almost zero equipment.
 
I use a huge massive monster rig and play prog/prog metal, and there's just no substitute for the sheer physics of a huge rig for pushing a large volume of very low frequency air. I (very loosely) think of it as a comparison to car safety. Yes, cars are safer today and more fuel efficient, which means that there has to be less weight and mass to the car to make it fuel efficient, but to be honest, I'd rather be in an accident surrounded by 5000 pounds of iron and a seatbelt than a tiny little lightweight car with seatbelts, air bags and the latest safety gadgets. At some point life gets down to pure physics: mass, energy and movement.

My .02.
 
I use a huge massive monster rig and play prog/prog metal, and there's just no substitute for the sheer physics of a huge rig for pushing a large volume of very low frequency air. I (very loosely) think of it as a comparison to car safety. Yes, cars are safer today and more fuel efficient, which means that there has to be less weight and mass to the car to make it fuel efficient, but to be honest, I'd rather be in an accident surrounded by 5000 pounds of iron and a seatbelt than a tiny little lightweight car with seatbelts, air bags and the latest safety gadgets. At some point life gets down to pure physics: mass, energy and movement.

My .02.

Yeah except none of the parts that make your rig heavy are moving parts.
 
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I have a 1 15 , a 2 10 , a 2 15 , a 4 10 and a couple of 8 10's. The 8 10 always goes on stage with me. It sounds good , it looks good and I can hear it better than any of the other cabs. For the last couple years an SVT Classic has almost always sat on top of it. The only exceptions were a couple of gigs where I knew the electrical systems in the place were wonky. (Is that a word?------ it is now.) I did do one gig last year with massive FOH stuff and just took a 2 15 but more because there were several bands playing and we had to do a really quick set up and tear down. Turned out I really didn't need anything. Their monitor system was fantastic.
 
I did a rehearsal yesterday and used the rig that was there s gk 700rb 2x10 combo. I found it to be seriously lacking any real oomph. Now, I use one of 3 heads ( 1001rbii, svt2 or gk 800rb) into 810e. These all kill in terms of loud, power and tone. I just cannot do anything less than a 4x10. I cannot see IMO, how guys can run tiny cabs. Sure we usually have em miked but there is still a lack of balls on stage and @ rehearsal. I'm talking hard Rock/metal here. I also can't personally stand to see a rock band on stage with woosie little rigs. I am all about big and bad. To me, nothing like seeing a wall of amps on stage regardless of if they're used or not. If I had the cash I'd add a second 8x10 in stage and use a full sized rolling rack. Anyone else? I cannot get with the tiny rig thing. Nothing against anyone who does, just me. I always felt rock/ metal was about big and bad.

I bet you like this Gene Simmon's rig pic:

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BTW some of Geddy Lee's 'rigs':

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Big and 'Clean'

and

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Big and delicious.. :D
 
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