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Biking '10 part 2

#461
My name is Mudd said:
I'd suggest focusing on the muscle side, primarily. The calorie burn from training will take care of the fat issue by itself...just be mindful of your intake.
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This sounds like good advice. It should probably be one goal or the other at any given time.

Luckily I didn't lose too much muscle during my surg. recovery but I did lose some. This is why i've been really concerned with not burning muscle during long rides/skates instead of burning fat. It's hard to get it balanced just right. You want to eat enough of the right calories at the right time to sustain you, but at the same time, you don't want to eat more than you burn :hmm:

Thanks for the suggestion :)
 
#462
spade2you said:
I wouldn't say you can't do both, but neither will work as well. I know that trainers and gym programs aren't all the same, but most get quick results, which aren't necessarily the best results for the long term. Unfortunately, I think people would quit or complain if they didn't see the quick results.

Anyhoo, there are no real secrets to weight loss or building strength, but the name of the game is gradual.

One would think a burning calorie is a calorie. As I said earlier, high intensity burns muscle glycogen (simple sugars), which requires carbs to prime, maintain, and recover. The rapid glycogen depletion causes pretty extreme hunger. It's hard to ignore that sort of hunger. If you can, it will be at the expense of not recovering as well. If you overdo it, you'll recover fine, but the weight loss will be nil or there's a potential for weight gain.

Fat burning generally requires a lower overall pace, but this generally requires much more time, which is a deal breaker for a lot of people. It takes less to prime, maintain, and recover. This will build a nice aerobic endurance engine, but not a lot of the top end results.
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I know that fat loss also has a lot to do with sustaining a maximum heart rate steadily for a minimum of time. This is where some confusion on interval training and fat loss comes in. At least with regards to cycling.

I haven't really learned to control my heartrate on my bike yet. This is probably just making my results more confusing. I can control my heartrate while speedskating. I'm just more accustomed to skating. The bike is still kind of a newish thing for me and I find it hard to get my heart rate up on it unless i'm pushing higher gears than i'd like to. So lately, i've been doing more interval type riding on it instead of 'fat burning' spinning type riding. You're right though, a calorie burned is a calorie burned and thats still accomplishing something.

So I don't actually need to lose weight in numbers. I'm thin/average sized...not overweight. I just want to get more defined and change my muscle to fat ratio back to something i can be happy with. Thats really what changed during my surgery recovery. Seems like I got that extra layer of stuff while also losing a little bit of muscle. I basically stayed the same size though.

It has proven very difficult to try to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. I think i've managed to maintain the muscle I have though. You and my name is mudd both make a good point of just concentrating on one or the other at a time. This is gonna be my new approach :)
 
#465
Ziltoid said:
Cool pictures, how was your trip?
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Windy.

The plan was to bike up to Cartwright in Labrador and take a long ferry back to Newfoundland, but there were too much pack ice so the ferry never made it to port. I ended biking down the west coast which is insanely windy. With a couple of pick-up ride, I managed to make for most lost time. Then I went to Twillingate, "iceberg capital of the world" where not a single iceberg could be found. I went there to see icebergs but didn't see many because of the pack ice. How ironic.

It was still amazing though. It was my second tour in Newfoundland and I've been looking at routes for a third trip, although I might go without the bike and concentrate on photography.

This is two years ago in Gros Morne park:
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#466
Let me preface all this by saying that I freely admit to being old-skool in my approach to training in general, OK?

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BassXgirl said:
I haven't really learned to control my heartrate on my bike yet.This is probably just making my results more confusing.
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I have never learned how to do this successfully and/or consistently on the bike, and it hasn't been for the lack of trying.

Sometimes, and solely IMO, I believe that people can get too focused on trying to find/stay in The Zone and kinda-sorta 'forget' what they're out there for in the first place. I've done support for a BIG-name and successful university race team and it actually seemed (to me, anyway) that those who rode/raced based on how they felt in the saddle at any given moment did just as well as those who used a HR monitor to ride by...if that makes sense. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use a HR...if it works for you, good...but I'd also suggest that you simply pay attention to how you feel in any given situation, ie - feel good ATM? Attack, or chase down the attack in front of you; feel kinda blah? Sit in and see what happens up the road; they could be feeling crappy also and trying to ride thru it...or not.

BassXgirl said:
...I find it hard to get my heart rate up on it unless i'm pushing higher gears than i'd like to...
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That right there...that's what I'm on about here.
 
#471
bassteban said:
It's so good to be connected. :cool:
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T'is what makes the world go 'round...and I really do love their knee warmers, to the point of not needing for-real tights. They're long enough that I can have the tops well up inside my bib legs and still have my calves covered, even with my long legs. HUGELY recommended!

geeza said:
You know what they say... "For every uphill there's a downhill, and for every headwind, there's another headwind."
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Ain't it the truth...
 
#475
Having trouble with the wheel order, it's pissing me off...

They phone called me to ask for info confirmation saying it was part of their fraud prevention policy for out of USA shipments, then I received an email saying they need a gov. issued id and a scan of the cc because the shipping/cc address did not match. It's the same address on both, so I asked by email again what was the difference as they're both supposed to be the same, listed the address there again. No answer so far...
 
#477
Meh, if the shop keeps F'n around they'll lose my business it's looking that way so far, I assume they're close until tomorrow sometime, if I get no answer from now to Monday night, They can put my order in their stinker, the way they act is showing they got no confidence in me, I don't see why I should give them business and no I'm not scanning various id's and a cc card to then email them that.
 

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