There's no disdain for the community, there is a problem with a tiny and very vocal subset of it. My mistake for thinking I could have a conversation with that handful of people.
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Boom Bass Cabinets?
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HELD ITS OWN now equals OUTPERFORMING. And I did not say held its own, Ian did.
I did not make a bold claim. Apparently this is still fairly hard to understand.
Could somebody read the quotes for actual content? Vs. abbreviating?
JUST KIDDING!
Carry on.
I did not make a bold claim. Apparently this is still fairly hard to understand.
Could somebody read the quotes for actual content? Vs. abbreviating?
JUST KIDDING!
Carry on.
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- Jan 12, 2011
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Reading this gave me a headache. I've met and know both Brad and Ian. They are both very serious about their Music and both very Picky when it comes to their gear. My suggestion is don't knock it until you've tried it. No I don't play on BBC. I just don't knock what I haven't tried for myself.
Any new developments on these cabs, does anybody recommend these? Any reviews?
The website's information is pretty up to date. We upgraded the 15 in the Tank 1215. Picked up a lot of new customers since December, around ten in the last week alone. Hit me with any questions here or through the website. Thanks.
I've owned a Tank 1215 for over 6 months now - it's PERFECT. Loud as hell, clear with more low end than any other cabinet I've played through.
It weighs 45 lbs and has a wheel system that allows you to walk into a gig with head, cab and bass in 1 trip.
If you are a bass player you owe it to yourself to try one out - not guess what you think it would sound like based on previous experience with other cabs.
Not very many stores carry them - but it's worth it to either make a road trip or buy one and then return it if you don't like it. But you will like. You will love it.
It weighs 45 lbs and has a wheel system that allows you to walk into a gig with head, cab and bass in 1 trip.
If you are a bass player you owe it to yourself to try one out - not guess what you think it would sound like based on previous experience with other cabs.
Not very many stores carry them - but it's worth it to either make a road trip or buy one and then return it if you don't like it. But you will like. You will love it.
It appears to me that people are expecting Brad to disclose "every detail" about the construction of the BBC!
Why would he do that?
Non-disclosure doesn't mean he is being dishonest about the capabilities of the BBC.
I would not criticize a product unless I've A/B'd the product!
Why would he do that?
Non-disclosure doesn't mean he is being dishonest about the capabilities of the BBC.
I would not criticize a product unless I've A/B'd the product!
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For those who've asked, we recently had a mini cab shootout including a 1015 Tank at a local GTG. Thoughts were shared here:
Aguilar GS212 vs Greenboy F212
1)Dispersion 2)Efficiency 3)Size
Aguilar GS212 vs Greenboy F212
1)Dispersion 2)Efficiency 3)Size
He'd do that to show how his technology is different. No matter, sooner or later someone will open theirs up and post pictures of it. I've got a very good idea of what it is, and if I'm right it is an isobaric, so it will have both the small size and output limitations that all isobarics have. Using two speakers but getting the output of only one explains the results in the link Dave posted.
Yes, the cab shootout... which frankly provided more information about how flawed the shootout was than anything. But there are no set rules here for this kind of thing so we recommend taking the findings with a grain of salt.
- If your gigging situation is primarily in a small room full of other gear
- you test by moving a cable between cabinets.
- you test a cab and "Didn't know there was an incorrect way to use the cab" that is clearly different. We really didn't think we'd have to explain that having a side opening close to another cab was not an optimal way to test the cab.
- you test dispersion in a small room with obviously close boundaries... and the forward firing cab has the same dispersion as the cab with sound coming out of three sides.
- two testers heard things markedly different. One attributed a rattle in the room to our cabinet. The other didn't. One thought the tweeter might be blown, the other didn't notice. The difference between a working tweeter and having it turned off is pretty obvious to most listeners. One tester stated that: "It kinda had that air leakage sound. Super high buzz". The other apparently did not experience that. And the consensus was "Exactly. They are all very nice cabinets".
- full disclosure: the negative comments were from two hardcore Greenboy fans. Coincidence? At this point, with the fact that every mention of Boom Bass Cabinets is followed by their negativity, which they are allowed to do... let's just say we're flattered.
Were there problems with their methodology? Absolutely in our opinion. Did the test prove something? We'll let others draw their own conclusions on that. Talk to owners of the cabs for counterpoints.
For others truly interested in checking out our cabinets in real life we suggest:
- test it as you would on a gig or barring that, where you will use it. Yes, the side openings should be unobstructed.
- set your amp whichever way you choose. If you need to set it the same way you set it for another cabinet, there's nothing we can do about that. Otherwise treat it as a new cabinet and start from scratch. Controls flat, volume up then tweak if you need to.
- our cabs are available in a few stores and we have customers all over the country, the majority of whom are more than happy to let you hear for yourself what's up.
- we have a ten day trial period. If I am not allowed to mention that here please delete it. I'm not trying to get around the rules.
We were not trying to make the loudest cabs because frankly we think that's pointless. We were after cabs that can coast through your gig. The only mention we've ever had about "working hard" was in this shootout. In fact the majority of our customers point out the exact opposite.
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It has been long established here that these are not isobaric. So your idea of what it is has a fundamental flaw. There are other explanations for the results Dave got.
As far as internal pictures go, these cabinets have been explained numerous times and pics aren't going to contradict any of that. No, we aren't going to put up photos of the interiors of our cabs. No, we're not going to tell anyone how to build their own. Some will understand that and others won't.
We do find it curious that that same demand is not put on every higher end cab. This is not a DIY project. We appreciate the folks who understand that.
Thank you for the very nice review. It's rewarding to see people giving us a chance despite what's been going on.
I have used a 1015 side by side with a F212 on a stage. If the 1015 was better, I'd have one.
At the GTG, everyone who was in the room and was paying attention had the same feelings when comparing the cabs.
Maybe you should include with your cabs the rules for using it. Such as exactly how much open space it needs to function properly. 2-feet? 5-feet?
On many a gig, space is a premium.
You make a micro cab that ironically needs 25 sq-ft of open space to sound right?
Have you a/b'd a tank with a Fearless cab? If not, what do add to the comparison? Especially being a paid shill for BBC? You already responded to these "issues" in the other threads. Why jump back into it here?
You think the BBC buried everything and we just make false opinions? Why not let your fans/customers do the talking?
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Closed for review to stop the endless flow of post reports related to the endless bickering.
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