Boom Bass Cabinets?

[dukeorock]

I'm on both sides of this. Hearing is certainly believing and the problem with manufacturers specs is they are often fiction. The specs cited on that Aggie cab, for example. Not saying it's a bad cab, mind you.

 

[B-string]

One complaint I have with published "ratings" is the lack of qualifiers. Sensitivity for example, frequency response another. I can say a container holds 6 all day long.

 

[Topkat13]

Maybe I missed it. Where are the Boom cabs manufactured?

 

[Brad Johnson]

I sure don't plan a trip to your area any time soon and not willing to lay money out on what could be a splash in the pan that doesn't pan out. OTHER side of the coin.

I didn't expect for you to do either.

Because no one else does it, does not instill confidence to me personally? You are correct, you can present data only to have people discount it. I believe only a portion of the specs "provided" by others myself. It is not held as gospel, even the observations of those respected during a honeymoon period are subject to (obvious if you read these boards) scrutiny?

No one said anything about not doing anything BECAUSE no one else did it. Just want to be clear on that. I will ask what seems to be an obvious question... why is the bar higher on these cabs than anywhere else?

 

[Brad Johnson]

One complaint I have with published "ratings" is the lack of qualifiers. Sensitivity for example, frequency response another. I can say a container holds 6 all day long.

I completely agree. XXhz - XXkhz ratings tell you next to nothing. Particularly if the lower rating is down -10dB. And zero info between those two goalposts.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Maybe I missed it. Where are the Boom cabs manufactured?

Triangle, VA.

 

[B-string]

No one said anything about not doing anything BECAUSE no one else did it. Just want to be clear on that. I will ask what seems to be an obvious question... why is the bar higher on these cabs than anywhere else?

Not a question of a higher bar. It would be good IMO if someone had the fortitude to break the "norm". It not like I can drive 150 miles to the nearest Guitar Center to try one or have the return policy as an example. It would provide information to sway purchase, unless the business can not be geared to volume sales or a large number of units sold. If you are content with slow growth like a boutique amp builder then I can see it being a waste of effort. Wait for word of mouth, your considerable efforts to break ground here are puzzling in that case?

 

[wave rider]

Break my heart Brad, you left out Bag Ends...!

=wr=

In over 14 years there have been a lot of recommendations. I've been recommending Brubakers since I bought my first one, used, here on TB maybe 12 or 13 years ago. In addition, off the top of my head...

Nahas cabs
Amplified Music Products
Thunderfunk
Michael Pope Designs preamps
Yamaha PB1 preamps
Bartolini electronics
Zon fretlesses
Ken Smith fretlesses*
Elrick
Acoustic Image
Walter Woods*
Avalon
Eden
Aguilar
Guild Hartke
Roscoe
Fender
Kustom KXB500 amp
SWR Triad cab
Marleaux basses
Fodera
R Bass
Yancey basses
Surine basses
Stambaugh basses
Ristola basses*
F Bass
A Basses
Bone basses
Crown amps
Glasstone cabs and basses
Genz Benz
Markbass
Boss multi effects units.

There's more. With the exception of those with asterisks, I've owned sometimes multiples of the items I've listed.


In most cases long before these items caught on/became mainstream. So far I've only been accused of shilling for Markbass and Glasstone. My "compensation" from both brands has been zero .

I tell others about stuff I like because maybe it might work for them too. That's all. Because of my travels I've been able to try out everything I've recommended. In many cases I own what I'm talking about and have gigging experience. Everything I'd recommend has to be giggable.


I don't pop in making recommendations like I'm just throwing them against the wall to see if they'll stick. In the last few years I've really cut back because I get tired of the negative push back I get from people who don't know me. Then again, I'm not the one who's new here

I'm more than happy to help the folks who want it, now if I could just get the ones who don't to leave me alone...

 

[slade]

I will ask what seems to be an obvious question... why is the bar higher on these cabs than anywhere else?

I think I'm stating the obvious here, but maybe because you are making above average claims? Is this a trick question or did I misunderstand you? If you open yourself up in a public forum by making bold claims about your product, people will typically hold you to higher standards than say, anything anyone can play at GC (which is who I assume you are comparing yourself to). This, I think, is the positive thing about a public forum- expose your products and let the public dive in (whether it be the specs or the real world experience of playing them).

I don't quite see how mathematics can establish the room projection of a cab, other than generalizing based on SPLs (and this will just be a guestimate as there are so many variables that can't be established).

This thread is getting trippy.

Anyone else ever play one of these things?!?!?

 

[Brad Johnson]

Break my heart Brad, you left out Bag Ends...!

=wr=

And as much as I've used and recommended them over the years... that's a big omission.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Not a question of a higher bar. It would be good IMO if someone had the fortitude to break the "norm". It not like I can drive 150 miles to the nearest Guitar Center to try one or have the return policy as an example. It would provide information to sway purchase, unless the business can not be geared to volume sales or a large number of units sold. If you are content with slow growth like a boutique amp builder then I can see it being a waste of effort. Wait for word of mouth, your considerable efforts to break ground here are puzzling in that case?

Honestly, I don't think the norm really needs to be broken. That would mean gearing things towards the handful of people who want to hear things in their head first. I get it, I just don't find it to be as important as they do... because I have been surprised by things I didn't expect to do what they did based on what was written about them. They did something completely different in my hands. So I'm in the hands-on camp. And believe it or not, even though this is a major metropolitan area more often than not things I'm interested in are nowhere to be found so I've had to travel.

We're actually taking this slow, B-string. The cabs just hit one store this Fall. I appreciate what you're saying but what considerable efforts are you seeing on my part? This is one of I think three threads where these have been mentioned. That didn't take much effort at all. I've explained the mindset behind the cab; the format, the angled baffle, the low tweeter, the three vents. This is about as small an operation as you can get. If the opportunity to grow larger presents itself that'll be great. And gearing it upwards is doable. Right now we're pretty happy with word-of-mouth, hopefully those mouths have actual experience with the products. If they get established that way we feel the rest will fall in place.

 

[B-string]

Best of all to your endeavour then. I hope to audition these cabs some time. Could be a wonderful birth.

 

[Brad Johnson]

I think I'm stating the obvious here, but maybe because you are making above average claims? Is this a trick question or did I misunderstand you? If you open yourself up in a public forum by making bold claims about your product, people will typically hold you to higher standards than say, anything anyone can play at GC (which is who I assume you are comparing yourself to). This, I think, is the positive thing about a public forum- expose your products and let the public dive in (whether it be the specs or the real world experience of playing them).

I don't quite see how mathematics can establish the room projection of a cab, other than generalizing based on SPLs (and this will just be a guestimate as there are so many variables that can't be established).

This thread is getting trippy.

Anyone else ever play one of these things?!?!?

Cool... list the bold and/or above average claims I've made.

I'm not comparing these to just anything at GC, compare them to anything that's being made for bass amplification. Is that bold too? I don't think so... I heard them, that's simply confidence.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Best of all to your endeavour then. I hope to audition these cabs some time. Could be a wonderful birth.

Thanks, greatly appreciated. If I catch wind of one in your area I'll be sure to let you know. So far I think the farthest one from here is in Florida. BTW Victor Wooten used one when he played with the Nashville Symphony. Drue is a friend of Victor's and asked him to check out the Tank 1215. He's keeping it there for his Bass Camp last I heard and it happened to be around when the symphony gig went off so he used it for three performances. By all accounts it went very well with his new bowable Fodera.

We're serious about this stuff but man, is it fun.

 

[B-string]

Brad I have almost spoon fed a selling bullet point if true. It was unanswered though.

I look forward to it.

 

[Brad Johnson]

I'm on both sides of this. Hearing is certainly believing and the problem with manufacturers specs is they are often fiction. The specs cited on that Aggie cab, for example. Not saying it's a bad cab, mind you.

That's a problem I've had for a long time. My favorite thing along that line is when folks acknowledge how lacking most specs are AND claim they can tell what a cab sounds like based on them. Huh?

 

[Brad Johnson]

Brad I have almost spoon fed a selling bullet point if true. It was unanswered though.

I look forward to it.

Help me out... it's been a long day.


Was it about having some benefits of a sealed AND ported cab?

 

[B-string]

Where does the efficiency fall, in the bass reflex range for lows without the frequency peaks?

Does it eliminate the sealed/ported cab debate?

 

[Brad Johnson]

That has yet to be measured. I won't give my opinion on it.

 

[slade]

I'm not comparing these to just anything at GC, compare them to anything that's being made for bass amplification. Is that bold too? I don't think so... I heard them, that's simply confidence.

Well I'll give you credit for putting it out there. Confidence is one way of looking at it....

At least now your cards are on the table. You've developed the best cab made for bass amplification. Radical.