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Boss GT 1000Core

#181
Thanks!. I'm very happy with it. Got a few more observations and thoughts about the GTCore.

  • The tuner is awesome, solid as a rock
  • Roland/Boss support is great. They get back to you in 48 hrs.
  • Haven't used the GTCore screen once, done all patch creations in the Tone Studio. Still a bit sluggish on some things.
  • Some of the guitar dirt effects sound good on bass.
  • I like the 4x12 cab effect on fuzz. Haven't tried 3rd party IR's yet, but will do.
  • It feels quick, not feeling much latency, not fighting against it when play fast passages.
  • The higher tones are very glassy sounding. I prefer passing the signal through the Q/Strip for some analog character. I'm hearing a difference.
  • I'm liking the Bass Compressor, use it before an overdrive and the sound is gradual, after overdrive it has a smoothing effect. Can setting it for an open tone, or squash the hell out of it.
  • There's so much gain you push this thing into a wall of noise. Good for Shoegazing!!
  • I use headphones for creating patches. I'm finding some horrible clipping noises in the level settings of effects. got to make sure you don't push those too far.
  • I used HPF 40hz and LPF 3.15Khz on the Master EQ.
  • I'm thinking you could put the Bass Amps and Dirt effects into a 200 series pedal.
YawningJorin said:
These are splendid! There's a tiny bit of that digital high end in a lot of the tones but I'm sure you can tweak it away with the IR if anything. It seems digital is finally hitting the mark even for dirt
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Krisfield said:
(...) I really want to tidy it up and short circuit the pedal GAS. I'll keep the DI, VT Bass, Q/Strip and Keeley Compressor Pro. View attachment 4008133
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I'm sorta tending towards the same direction with the Core. It looks like a very interesting studio tool, as it allows to have bass and guitar stuff in the same box. If it's that good, might make me rethink my live rig. But I was really disappointed with the GT 1B, I couldn't get a tone I really liked.



amper said:
OK, here's the design for my Ultimate Bass Fly Rig Pedalboard of DOOM. Diagram is to scale.View attachment 4006334
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Been off dedicated preamps for a couple of years but just ordered a VTDI 'cause I like its burly OD (had one in the past). But I like the looks of that Simplifier Bass Station !`



Krisfield said:
Ten clips featuring Fuzz, Distortion, Overdrive of the GTCore.
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Thank you for posting these. Really liked clip 9, was that the Concert amp ?
 
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#185
I play some guitar as well, so the GTCore is really useful in that regard. I'm a bit shocked by how good the Amp modelling effects are. I've been using tube and analog gear for years, and have been somewhat sceptical on believable and convincing digital amp modelling. I almost pulled the trigger on the Helix LT or the Stomp, but was still committed to the pedals I was using at that stage. Nothing wrong with those units btw. But the specs on the GTCore are very very interesting. And if I didn't like it, I was going to sell it on. But it looks like I'm keeping it.

The amp model for clip 9 was the Natural bass amp.

Bassmike62 said:
I'm sorta tending towards the same direction with the Core. It looks like a very interesting studio tool, as it allows to have bass and guitar stuff in the same box. If it's that good, might make me rethink my live rig. But I was really disappointed with the GT 1B, I couldn't get a tone I really liked.



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Been off dedicated preamps for a couple of years but just ordered a VTDI 'cause I like its burly OD (had one in the past). But I like the looks of that Simplifier Bass Station !`





Thank you for posting these. Really liked clip 9, was that the Concert amp ?
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#186
It's been my experience with digital modelling that, it's not that modellers don't sound "good", it's that whenever you hear a direct A/B test of whatever a digital modeller is modelling, the real thing always sounds better.

The same is not true of solid-state analog. The latest generations of solid-state analog amps are fantastic. Take a listen to the DSM & Humboldt products, the Boss Nextone amps (sans the digital effects, they have a 100% analogue power section that emulates four different tube topologies: EL84, 6V6, 6L6, EL34), and in direct A/B testing, they sound as good or better.

That being said, digital modelling can be a useful tool for some people. It's just not for me.
 
#187
amper said:
The same is not true of solid-state analog. The latest generations of solid-state analog amps are fantastic. Take a listen to the DSM & Humboldt products, the Boss Nextone amps (sans the digital effects, they have a 100% analogue power section that emulates four different tube topologies: EL84, 6V6, 6L6, EL34), and in direct A/B testing, they sound as good or better.
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I think you will find the Nextone tube topology emulation is all DSP from the input jack to the power amp (TDA xxxx family amp chip) input.
 
#188
@Corinell
Krisfield said:
I play some guitar as well, so the GTCore is really useful in that regard. I'm a bit shocked by how good the Amp modelling effects are. I've been using tube and analog gear for years, and have been somewhat sceptical on believable and convincing digital amp modelling. I almost pulled the trigger on the Helix LT or the Stomp, but was still committed to the pedals I was using at that stage. Nothing wrong with those units btw. But the specs on the GTCore are very very interesting. And if I didn't like it, I was going to sell it on. But it looks like I'm keeping it.

The amp model for clip 9 was the Natural bass amp.
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Even tho the name is Natural you can get some very evil sounds from that amp apparently. So easy to identify Natural in your dirt samples. Between Natural and the crossover amp this box covers a lot of ground for extreme genres. Impressive.
 
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#189
On a couple of the dirt examples, I used a dual path bi amp setup. Each of the three dividers has this HPF/LPF crossover feature. So you can really target very precisely what frequencies you want effect with dirt. On top of that, a lot of the other effects have HPF/LPF. There’s also the X Comp multi-band compressor. I’m beginning to think Boss have been scouting around Talkbass and other bass playing forums for ideas. I’m looking forward to the updates for this thing.


Wretched Banana said:
@Corinell


Even tho the name is Natural you can get some very evil sounds from that amp apparently. So easy to identify Natural in your dirt samples. Between Natural and the crossover amp this box covers a lot of ground for extreme genres. Impressive.
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#191
gumtown said:
I think you will find the Nextone tube topology emulation is all DSP from the input jack to the power amp (TDA xxxx family amp chip) input.
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The digital parts of the Nextone amps, so far as I am aware, are only the effects, which can be bypassed. The entire rest of the amp, according to Boss/Roland, is analogue, unless they are lying.
 
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#192
BTW, the X series effects are based on Boss' MDP technology, which is a digital modelling technology, as are any of the effects based on Boss' earlier COSM technology. But, with the X-Bass/X-Drive, it's not modelling some particular type of amp, so there's nothing to compare it to directly. Ditto for the X-Comp.

MDP is more or less the next generation of COSM.

I think the X-Comp is brilliant, but since I'm really not a fan of distortion on bass, at all, I think the X-Drive (and presumably the X-Bass) sounds good only at very low gain levels, where it's not obviously distorted, but more just a little squishy.
 
#195
Just received this for review. There goes my weekend!
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YawningJorin said:
I got mine, trying to wrap my head around it. Quite the learning curve even with the tone studio >_<
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Because it's essentially the same as the GT-1000, I found the tutorial and reference material for that really helpful. They have a thing called 'The Ultimate Guide To GT-1000' which does a really good job with the basic concepts.
 
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Ok, sat down with it a bit more tonight! Getting my head around the interface now and managed to set up two channels I/O which is absolutely splendid! Haven't tried much yet, but spent a lot of time tweaking my pre-effects section. Some initial impressions

* Tuner: tracks superbly all the way down to a low A. Unfortunately I'm tuned to F, so the turbo tuner stays.
* Chorus: works for a simple duplicate function, but it's not quite the same as my MimiQ. There's something with the dynamics, I think. I should probably A/B it properly.
* Compression: only tried the X-Bass Comp so far, but it is splendid! Very responsive, clean, easy to set up, and that tone knob is working wonders on my neck signal. I might have to try another model for my bridge though.
* EQ: certainly does what it says on the tin. Works well enough, solid headroom for a digital effect. The parametric EQ seems to just be a different mode for the graphical EQ. And neither feels quite right -- the graphical has knobs so it loses a lot of the point of being graphical. But hey, we should be mixing with our ears so maybe there's a point in that. The parametric doesn't let you specify exact frequencies, it's just a list for each adjustable band. On the bright side, it's a lot easier for me to pick what seems best given the limited options.
* Noise gates: they generate some horrible noise at the wrong settings. Had to set the release to max and the threshold for them to work properly. Beats the tone loss I get from my NS-2s, at least.
* USB IO: it has a whole six outputs to USB (stereo for dry, main, and sub)! It's not quite enough for me to scrap my DI setup as I've got other pedals in the chain and want to tap into the signal before going into the return of the Core, but it's more than potent enough for reasonable applications.

Question for the rest of you: is there any good way to monitor the pedal through my Scarlett interface without plugging it into a pre-amp? Currently using Windows' "listen to this device" thingy and it works but it adds way too much latency. I was not able to do it in REAPER using ASIO as the option to set device entails both input and output.
 
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