Boss GT 1000Core

[BEADist]

To me, most of the Boss sounds were more pronounced. For example the spring reverb (at 18:43) where the Boss has much more of that springy top end. If you do not like that you can call that 'excessive' (or maybe even digital hehe), if you do like that (I do ) you could call the Line6 Spring 'bland'.

But as always with these comparisons I wonder if I could make an effect more to my liking if I were to dial the knobs. If I weren't so lazy I could take my HXFX out of it's box to compare the Springs myself..

However, the Boss Core is more to my liking how I can set things up and control it. For example I much prefer the 'STOMPBOX' function (making effects global) over the 'SCENES' function on the Line6. ("Do you have to mention that again?" Yes, I do )

 

[MrDinsdale]

To me, most of the Boss sounds were more pronounced. For example the spring reverb (at 18:43) where the Boss has much more of that springy top end. If you do not like that you can call that 'excessive' (or maybe even digital hehe), if you do like that (I do ) you could call the Line6 Spring 'bland'.

But as always with these comparisons I wonder if I could make an effect more to my liking if I were to dial the knobs. If I weren't so lazy I could take my HXFX out of it's box to compare the Springs myself..

However, the Boss Core is more to my liking how I can set things up and control it. For example I much prefer the 'STOMPBOX' function (making effects global) over the 'SCENES' function on the Line6. ("Do you have to mention that again?" Yes, I do )

Yeah the Stompboxes feature is a real game changer when used strategically, you can automate changes across a bunch of presets in one go to account for a different instrument or room etc.

The Noise suppression on the Core is excellent too, especially when you do the advanced version which reacts to input gain.

I’ve not spent much time with HX compression but a quick skim and minimal tweaks didn’t wow me.

I do like that the HX offers some quirky boutique-like stuff out of the box though. The fact they offer synth sounds too is cool even if it’s not something I’d use. The Core sounds excellent but it’s all models of pretty generic/typical effects.

 

[Krisfield]

So I was trying to use an effects pedal in SEND/RETURN 2, and no sound. I had a little panic attack and spent a couple hours trying to problem solve it. Checked the Parameter Guide to see if I missed something. Turns out SEND/RETURN 1 has to be turned on to use SEND/RETURN 2. You can't use SEND/RETURN 2 by itself. Is this right, have I missed something? Nothing in the Parameter Guide about it from what I can see.

 

[BEADist]

I can use SR 2 when SR 1 is OFF. Would be really weird if not, for me this is a main feature. I cannot think of a reason this would not work on your unit.

Edit: did you try switching around, using only SR 1 with SR 2 OFF? Sorry, just shooting in the dark here and looking for clues..

 

[Krisfield]

Cool, thank you so much. Found the problem. It's one of the issues with how I use the GTCore. I've got multiple I/O's and Channels on some patches, and I when try something and there's no sound, it can take a bit to track it down.

I can use SR 2 when SR 1 is OFF. Would be really weird if not, for me this is a main feature. I cannot think of a reason this would not work on your unit.

Edit: did you try switching around, using only SR 1 with SR 2 OFF? Sorry, just shooting in the dark here and looking for clues..

 

[Krisfield]

If you wanna overwrite all the User Presets in one go, here's a Liveset file with 250 INIT PATCH presets.

File is called INIT PATCH LIVESET.tsl

Here's a tip if you want to bulk Initiate all the User Presets.


1. Create a User Preset that has been Initiated and copy it to a Live Set.
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2. Create an Initiate Live Set and move the Initiate Patch to the Live Set.
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3. Select all the Initiate Patches in the Live Set.
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4. Then mouse click and move them over to the User Presets to overwrite them.
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[Danthoin]

I replaced my bass pedalboard (nearly all MXR) with the GT1000 (not core) just under two years ago for the form factor, and I figured it would be much better than building a secondary pedalboard for guitar, my secondary instrument. The form and function hasn’t let me down (especially the volume/expression pedal).

I play on a worship team that until very recently had no electric guitar and a keyboard player with an aversion to pads, so for a long time I’ve been the one musician on stage with effects going. Since changing to the GTK my sound hasn’t been as…beautiful, I guess, as it was with the pedalboard. And with the additional BOSS units coming out like the SY-1000 and ME 90B that have more bass amp simulations, I’ve been having some serious feelsbadman vibes.

BUT, I recently found and read through this whole thread and I’m back to feeling excited about my decision. The support in here has helped me get back that beauty quality to my sound (and assuaged some GAS). Sure, maybe I don't have access to a GK800RB sim, but I can still get a sound that fulfills the *reason* I GAS for the GK800RB. Thank you all for taking the time to comment and assist each other – it’s been a huge help for me.

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone else here that plays on a worship team? If so, how are you using the GTK/GTKC? I’m mainly using manual mode with the five manual switches controlling overdrive, chorus, octave, phaser/flanger (depending on the set), and fuzz, the expression for volume swells and tuner (and clicking it for touch wah), and CTRL 1-3 for amp switching, delay and reverb. My amps are natural bass and concert/x-bass (still working on settling on one of them). Compression, noise suppression, EQ, and master effects are all always on.

 

[rafitoprtx]

I replaced my bass pedalboard (nearly all MXR) with the GT1000 (not core) just under two years ago for the form factor, and I figured it would be much better than building a secondary pedalboard for guitar, my secondary instrument. The form and function hasn’t let me down (especially the volume/expression pedal).

I play on a worship team that until very recently had no electric guitar and a keyboard player with an aversion to pads, so for a long time I’ve been the one musician on stage with effects going. Since changing to the GTK my sound hasn’t been as…beautiful, I guess, as it was with the pedalboard. And with the additional BOSS units coming out like the SY-1000 and ME 90B that have more bass amp simulations, I’ve been having some serious feelsbadman vibes.

BUT, I recently found and read through this whole thread and I’m back to feeling excited about my decision. The support in here has helped me get back that beauty quality to my sound (and assuaged some GAS). Sure, maybe I don't have access to a GK800RB sim, but I can still get a sound that fulfills the *reason* I GAS for the GK800RB. Thank you all for taking the time to comment and assist each other – it’s been a huge help for me.

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone else here that plays on a worship team? If so, how are you using the GTK/GTKC? I’m mainly using manual mode with the five manual switches controlling overdrive, chorus, octave, phaser/flanger (depending on the set), and fuzz, the expression for volume swells and tuner (and clicking it for touch wah), and CTRL 1-3 for amp switching, delay and reverb. My amps are natural bass and concert/x-bass (still working on settling on one of them). Compression, noise suppression, EQ, and master effects are all always on.

I play bass at church and in a Christian Rock band, use the Core as an amp and cab modeler at the beginning with my other FX in the input and FX loop. But little by little I found settings in the core that sounds as good of better than external pedals. First one is the compressor. The XComp set properly sound amazing. Now I'm tweaking my drives and I took one drive off already. Chorus octave and detune and Bass Wah are the other effects on the core that I use. One thing I notice is the DI. I was using a RNDI and it sound great but the cleaner and neutral the DI the better it sound in the PA. Im having great results with the MXR M81, they pair really great. It's funny how the Helix Stomp is the standard in worship but people add the oc2 and outside compressor and a tuner to their setups. Those extra pedals are included in the core. I only have an Alpha Omega and a Bike on the loop and they are close to be out of my setup soon.

 

[amper]

I was trying to find out the specifications for the IR loader in the GT-1000Core, and all that Boss has to say about it is that it accepts WAV files in 16-bit or 24 bit, and sample rates of 44.1, 48, or 96 KHz. There is no limitation on file size that you can feed the IR loader, according to the FAQ on the Boss website.

However, the IR loader "converts" the WAV file you give it to a format the Core (or the GT-1000 or GX-100) can use. No other data is given. This leads me to believe that although the IR loader software may accept a 24-bit/96 KHz file of indeterminate length, it almost certainly truncates the file at some point to fit whatever memory Boss has allocated to the IR function, and may additionally resample the file. Just because it accepts 24-bit/96 KHz, that doesn't mean it's actually *using* 24-bit/96 KHz.

The only IRs I've loaded on mine so far are the free Celestion Vintage 30 closed back 1x12 IRs, which Celestion provides in 200 ms and 500 ms variants, and frankly I find them less satisfying than Boss' built-in Mesa Recto 4x12 with Vintage 30s IR. I have yet to actually play around with finding other IRs and loading them.

When I open the Celestion files in Audacity, they show up as 32-bit float.

If anyone is able to come up with any additional information about this, I'd appreciate it. I'm wondering if the IR loader can be used to load, for instance, an impulse response of a double bass or a reverb IR. It would be a bit of a hack, but I'm really interested in adding an IR loader to my pedalboards for those purposes, and I want to experiment before I spend more money on a device that might not do what I need.

 

[amper]

Well, I did find one thing out that has nothing to do with the GT-1000Core, and that is that the tc electronic Impulse pedal supports everything up to 32-bit float/96 KHz WAV files up to 200 ms long for its IRs.

But...before I dropped $140 to have an Impulse delivered with two-day shipping, I spent $15 on the "Mod Bass" set of Upright Bass IRs from 3Sigma. Although it doesn't say so on the 3Sigma website, in the included documentation with the files I found out that the 3Sigma Upright Bass IRs are, in fact, 200 ms long, but I think they are 24-bit files, not 32-bit float. I think the Celestion files showed up as 32-bit float in Audacity because Audacity was set to 32-bit float. Both the Celestion and 3Sigma files are reported by Windows Explorer as 2304kbps bit rate, which is consistent with a 24-bit/96 KHz mono file. They also show as 24-bit/96 KHz in VLC Player.

I plugged in my Core, loaded up a selection of the IRs using the Rode NT1 mic (a nice neutral-sounding mic for acoustic instruments). I used the 96 KHz files, in case it makes a difference, but I still don't know if the Boss IR Loader software is actually downsampling and/or truncating the files. The Core operates with 32-bit float/96 KHz ADA converters, so presumably it has the power, I just don't know whether or not it's actually loading the full quality of the IR files. 3Sigma provides their IRs with 18 different version designed to work with different pickup systems, and each of those has 10 subversions recorded with different mics.

Anyway, I set up a couple of new patches for the piezo pickups on my fretless StingRay. I used the "Natural" bass amp model—you have to load an amp model in order to use the IR features—and I ended up choosing the "Acoustic Upright Standard" and "Electric Upright Standard" IRs, split L-R, because I find that having two slightly different sounds mixed together or panned gives a richer sound than using a single sound. I also set up an identical patch, but with the IRs off and the "Acoustic Resonance" effect on, so that I had something to compare to.

The IRs sound a little but better, I think, than the AR effect, but I think the preamp of my bass is very noisy (hiss), and using the IRs emphasizes that more than the AR effect. I was forced to do a few parametric EQ tricks to mitigate the excess hiss.

I added a small amount of reverb via the "Ambience" algorithm (my favorite in the Core), with the time cut back to 1.2 s, because it's really more to help simulate the upright bass sound than to provide reverb in the traditional sense. Even though the reverb ends up coming before the IRs, it still sounds good.

I'm pretty happy with it. I may still buy the Impulse to compare, and to use on my secondary bass pedalboard, but right now, I think that if I had to go gig with just the GT-1000Core and my Countryman Type 85 DI, I'd be pretty happy with the sound. I will spend a little more time comparing the different mic versions, next.

Note that it does not sound exactly like an upright bass. It's close, I think it's better than my acoustic resonance effects in the Core and my separate pedals, but it's not going to fool anyone, I think.

 

[Danthoin]

I play bass at church and in a Christian Rock band, use the Core as an amp and cab modeler at the beginning with my other FX in the input and FX loop. But little by little I found settings in the core that sounds as good of better than external pedals. First one is the compressor. The XComp set properly sound amazing. Now I'm tweaking my drives and I took one drive off already. Chorus octave and detune and Bass Wah are the other effects on the core that I use. One thing I notice is the DI. I was using a RNDI and it sound great but the cleaner and neutral the DI the better it sound in the PA. Im having great results with the MXR M81, they pair really great. It's funny how the Helix Stomp is the standard in worship but people add the oc2 and outside compressor and a tuner to their setups. Those extra pedals are included in the core. I only have an Alpha Omega and a Bike on the loop and they are close to be out of my setup soon.

That MXR M81 was my secret sauce! I can't describe it - it wasn't colorful, shimmery, or dirty, but somehow it just took it to the next level. I'm in a good spot with the GT1K right now, but if I were to go back in time, I'd hold onto that one.

 

[longjourneyhome]

I'm pretty happy with it. I may still buy the Impulse to compare, and to use on my secondary bass pedalboard, but right now, I think that if I had to go gig with just the GT-1000Core and my Countryman Type 85 DI, I'd be pretty happy with the sound. I will spend a little more time comparing the different mic versions, next.

Note that it does not sound exactly like an upright bass. It's close, I think it's better than my acoustic resonance effects in the Core and my separate pedals, but it's not going to fool anyone, I think.

The TC Impulse is a great IR pedal. I had two of them on different pedal boards.

York Audio also makes great IRs. When you buy theirs you get a number of bit depth and sample rate variations for different IR loaders. I experimented with 3Sigma instrument IRs on acoustic guitars. The effect is so subtle that ultimately it wasn't worth the effort for me. Things like a tiny bit of chorus, flanger, phaser, eq, delay, reverb had such a bigger and better audience awareness impact that the instrument IR didn't get used. Playing live it gets lost in the listening environment. Good luck with your explorations.

 

[FunkHead]

I have said it before but the Effects loops are also a secret sauce. Put your favorite pedal in the loop and the control its' input and output level in the core. There is a ton of control on how much the effect changes your tone.

You can use one of the touch sensitive effects(ie; Defret B or Duck Sens) within the Core before your favorite pedal and get a lot more dynamics from your external pedal.

 

[gillento]

I have said it before but the Effects loops are also a secret sauce. Put your favorite pedal in the loop and the control its' input and output level in the core. There is a ton of control on how much the effect changes your tone.

You can use one of the touch sensitive effects(ie; Defret B or Duck Sens) within the Core before your favorite pedal and get a lot more dynamics from your external pedal.

I am doing this with my Maxon AF-9 ............. and one of my OC-2 pedals (so that I can kick in and out that effects loops with the right CTRL1 switch within any preset)

 

[MrDinsdale]

I have said it before but the Effects loops are also a secret sauce. Put your favorite pedal in the loop and the control its' input and output level in the core. There is a ton of control on how much the effect changes your tone.

You can use one of the touch sensitive effects(ie; Defret B or Duck Sens) within the Core before your favorite pedal and get a lot more dynamics from your external pedal.

Yeah I did this with my Model Fet preamp, for cleanish I’d have the send level around 70, then I’d bump it to 110ish on the press of a footswitch. A little extra EQ, potentially a clean boost in-front and it’s like having a second channel.

 

[amper]

The TC Impulse is a great IR pedal. I had two of them on different pedal boards.

York Audio also makes great IRs. When you buy theirs you get a number of bit depth and sample rate variations for different IR loaders. I experimented with 3Sigma instrument IRs on acoustic guitars. The effect is so subtle that ultimately it wasn't worth the effort for me. Things like a tiny bit of chorus, flanger, phaser, eq, delay, reverb had such a bigger and better audience awareness impact that the instrument IR didn't get used. Playing live it gets lost in the listening environment. Good luck with your explorations.

The big questions I have had about IR loaders is just how long the IRs actually need to be. Obviously, for a reverb, as long as possible, and devices like the Tasty Chips Integral can load IRs of long duration, but most people are using IR as amp and cab sims, and for those purposes, you don’t need more than a few milliseconds. Celestion’s IRs are offered as 200 ms or 500 ms files, but most IR pedals on the market don’t use more than 2048 samples, only a few milliseconds. The Impulse takes a full 200 ms, and given that 3Sigmas files are all 200 ms, they must feel that is sufficient for capturing an acoustic instrument’s signature.

 

[gillento]

HELP!!!!

I tried the "save to stompbox" function in the "Natural Bass" preamp and now it seems stuck in "Stompox" mode. I am unable to write different preamp settings into different presets. This is my main application for this.
How do I do this? I read the manual and could not find anything neither in the Boss Studio software, nor on the pedal itself.

 

[bassophile]

Try pressing the knob no.5 and turn it counterclockwise to the PATCH setting.

 

[Les Fret]

HELP!!!!

I tried the "save to stompbox" function in the "Natural Bass" preamp and now it seems stuck in "Stompox" mode. I am unable to write different preamp settings into different presets. This is my main application for this.
How do I do this? I read the manual and could not find anything neither in the Boss Studio software, nor on the pedal itself.

I have to admit I find the Stompbox mode and the way it is described in the manual rather confusing myself.

My understanding is that when you have saved something to stompbox you can use that setting in other presets as well. As a sort of global block. But if you make changes to it in one preset it automatically changes those settings in other presets as well. Is that correct?

 

[bassophile]

Try pressing the knob no.5 and turn it counterclockwise to the PATCH setting.

Forgot to mention to press right cursor in effect view to reach last page where the STOMPBOX mode is visible on 5th knob.