Boss GT 1000Core

[SlowpokeJoe]

I've just recently picked up a Core and have owned a Helix LT for a while and previously had an HX Stomp, I'm not new to Boss Multi Effects, having owned a GT-10B and GT-100 in the past, but I do think that the Core is the best one yet.

I might be able to help with any questions of a Helix vs GT-1000 Core nature.

 

[Mr. voodoobass]

Seeing you also got a becos and an h9, and I use both the hx stomp and h9, I’m interested to know what you feel the core does better and or worse?

 

[SlowpokeJoe]

Seeing you also got a becos and an h9, and I use both the hx stomp and h9, I’m interested to know what you feel the core does better and or worse?

My gripe with the compressor models in the Core are the same with one I have with the compressors in the LT / Stomp - By default they are almost all "Make Sounds Way Louder" effects that don't really give me the same feel or serve the same direct purpose as a good analog compressor, at least not without a lot more tweaking than a real compressor.

I'm a fan of running certain compressors later in the chain, so in this photo I'm playing around with having the Becos Twain running in FX loop 2 behind the two dirt pedals with the loop itself running in front of the Pre Amp block in the Core.

As far as H9 vs Core, I don't think it's impossible to reproduce a great many of the algorithms in the H9 in the Core, but the H9 does it its thing so well that I really like having it in the other FX loop.

One potential victim of the Core showing up in my Source Audio Collider, I'll give it some time but I feel that it has been made redundant.

 

[Nuage420]

@SlowpokeJoe I agree with you on the compressors in the core. I don't like the X at all, but the studio I have set up nicely as a boost/extra grit always on. I like a good mid range growl in my clean tone and it brings that forward for me. I keep my Hyper luminal in a loop for compressor duties.

 

[ClusterFlux]

I happen to like the X-Bass comp. I concur it's a bit loud, but I like the extra oomph. All you have to do is turn down the level if it's producing too much input for other effects.

 

[Nuage420]

I happen to like the X-Bass comp. I concur it's a bit loud, but I like the extra oomph. All you have to do is turn down the level if it's producing too much input for other effects.

Yea, I gave it a good faith effort to find something I liked with it. I prefer the FET and BUS on my Hyper Luminal and even my M87.

 

[ClusterFlux]

Okay, a few more things.

Each patch has controls in the LCD for gain, bass, mids, treble and patch level on the "play screen."

Where is this in the signal path?

Along those lines, let's say my normal setting is a parametric EQ that reduces some of the high notes, and for a particular room I need more highs. Is it better to adjust the parametric EQ, or dial in additional highs from the play screen?


Also, does anyone know what the "Bass Mode" setting in the MST does?

 

[gumtown]

Bass Mode sets the range the GT expects to see, things like the Tuner will work better if set to Bass Mode.
Bass, Mid, treble are part of the Preamp module which can be anywhere in the signal chain per patch,
and Patch Level is near the output end of the chain.

 

[Unmost]

Hi! I got a GT-1000 Core but I'm having noise issues, see here : Boss GT-1000 Core noise issue

 

[Saf]

Ive had my Core about 5 weeks now and am just starting to enjoy it. I bought it to replace my Yamaha Magicstomp which i still love but its getting a bit old an beaten up. I was surprised that the Core has taken way more effort for me to get the sound where i want it . Im still gigging with the Magicstomp for now though but that was loaded with great useable sounds that just needed minor tweaking. I couldnt find anything i liked on the core, it has been quite a lot of work out but good fun. I havent got into the AIRD side of things yet so thats next and then maybe run it into the FX return on the 700rb and see what happens.

I wonder if Boss have had any thoughts about an SY-1000 Core?

Im not noticing any noise issues either

 

[Krisfield]

There is the SY 300, which is still available.

I wonder if Boss have had any thoughts about an SY-1000 Core?

 

[Daniel Piper]

Are there OC-3/OC-5 algorithms on the core?

 

[Krisfield]

Short answer, no. The five pitch shifting octave effects are:

Bass Octave Effect: -1 and -2 octave effect
Octave Effect: Mono and poly types, -1 and -2 octave effect
Pitch Shift Effect: Changes the pitch of the original sound (up or down) within a range of two octaves.
Overtone Effect: Adds new harmonics up or down one octave
Harmonist Effect: Creates harmonies based on the diatonic scale, -2 or +2 octaves.

Are there OC-3/OC-5 algorithms on the core?

 

[ClusterFlux]

OK, another question for the experts...

I'm using an EUB, which I've gotten somewhat close to an upright sound. But there are two things I'd like to tweak:

• A little more punch from the initial attack
• Less sustain on the note

I'm using the X-Comp and an Impulse Response, and a few other adjustments. The attack is mostly there, but I'm not sure how to cut the sustain.

I tried using foam under the bridge, and didn't care for the resulting tone. Any other suggestions?

 

[gumtown]

OK, another question for the experts...

I'm using an EUB, which I've gotten somewhat close to an upright sound. But there are two things I'd like to tweak:

• A little more punch from the initial attack
• Less sustain on the note

I'm using the X-Comp and an Impulse Response, and a few other adjustments. The attack is mostly there, but I'm not sure how to cut the sustain.

I tried using foam under the bridge, and didn't care for the resulting tone. Any other suggestions?

This is probably not the answer you want, but the Boss SY-1000 does a fantastic job at modelling an upright bass (and other types of bass).
The SY-1000 has much the same effects amps (more amp models actually) than the GT-1000, but also 4 tones sources to mix in,
3 tone sources being modelled instruments and analog type synths, and since it uses HRM modeling, there is no latency, like there is with pitch to midi systems.

 

[GMC]

Short answer, no. The five pitch shifting octave effects are:

Bass Octave Effect: -1 and -2 octave effect
Octave Effect: Mono and poly types, -1 and -2 octave effect
Pitch Shift Effect: Changes the pitch of the original sound (up or down) within a range of two octaves.
Overtone Effect: Adds new harmonics up or down one octave
Harmonist Effect: Creates harmonies based on the diatonic scale, -2 or +2 octaves.

It's surprising that Boss didn't add a convincing OC-2 algorithm in the GT-1000 Core. It's not like they don't have the code available.
For me, if I was starting a new board I would probably start with a GT-1000 core and then add a few Source Audio pedals (aftershock, C4, Ultrawave, maybe an EQ2). However...with a pair of Eventide H9's, a Hog2 and five SA pedals....I just can't see the need for a GT-1000 Core at the moment...however I do have a lot of respect for it as a pedal.

 

[Derek Williams]

It's surprising that Boss didn't add a convincing OC-2 algorithm in the GT-1000 Core. It's not like they don't have the code available.
For me, if I was starting a new board I would probably start with a GT-1000 core and then add a few Source Audio pedals (aftershock, C4, Ultrawave, maybe an EQ2). However...with a pair of Eventide H9's, a Hog2 and five SA pedals....I just can't see the need for a GT-1000 Core at the moment...however I do have a lot of respect for it as a pedal.

The Bass Octave is OC-2ish, but my issue with it is that it tracks horribly. Worse than the OC-5, and definitely worse than the C4. I have never tried one, but maybe it’s similar to a real OC-2

The GT-1000 Core plus Source Audio is what I use on my board, definitely a great combination. Now if only Source Audio would make a multi effects unit that combines all their effects along with flexible routing…

 

[Nuage420]

@GMC the core is killer as a... CORE of your board with the loops and routing availability. I am always changing up my board and recently realized I may be best off making multiple smaller boards each with the pedals I use together and then routing them in the core loops as needed. I agree with most about the bass octave, I really only use it with fuzz to hide the tracking issue if you play with any speed.
I'm shocked I haven't tried any SA stuff yet, I love all the demos I've seen from them. I did make a conscious decision not to buy the C4 though when I saw how versatile it is and realizing I already have enough rabbit holes to fall into with my current gear.

 

[amper]

OK, another question for the experts...

I'm using an EUB, which I've gotten somewhat close to an upright sound. But there are two things I'd like to tweak:

• A little more punch from the initial attack
• Less sustain on the note

I'm using the X-Comp and an Impulse Response, and a few other adjustments. The attack is mostly there, but I'm not sure how to cut the sustain.

I tried using foam under the bridge, and didn't care for the resulting tone. Any other suggestions?

In my case, I use the individual pedals, and sometimes foam bits shoved under the strings of my piezo StingRay.

My bass pedalboard is Boss AD-2 Acoustic Preamp into BC-1X Bass Comp into BB-1X Bass Driver (set mostly clean, just slightly spongy) into RV-6 Reverb. All those programs are in the Core.

 

[GMC]

@GMC
I'm shocked I haven't tried any SA stuff yet, I love all the demos I've seen from them. I did make a conscious decision not to buy the C4 though when I saw how versatile it is and realizing I already have enough rabbit holes to fall into with my current gear.

A lot of guys forget that everything that's in the Spectrum Filter is also in the C4. They seem to get overwhelmed by it and forget that it's an amazing filter and octave pedal. However I know of a number of guys who have bought both and use the C4 just for synth and sequencer stuff. I also know of a number of guys who just went for the Spectrum and love it for it's easier to use nature.