Seems the MS-3 you can plug in up to 3 of your favourite analog pedals into the back of it. That seems like a legitimate compromise to me.
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Boss GT-1B ... Arrogant? Stupid? Definitely unusable live.
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Seems the MS-3 you can plug in up to 3 of your favourite analog pedals into the back of it. That seems like a legitimate compromise to me.
Better than nothing and farsighted on their part IMO. I guess I'm not alone if they've got a feature like that.
I am definitely interested in trying the gt-1b, and at the $200 price point and small size I don't expect perfection. Good to get some insight into what sort of issues I'll need to be prepared for. However, I don't see anything that is deserving of being called stupid or arrogant... someone had to make many decisions as to what features and controls would be there, comes down to tradeoffs that some of us can live with and others can't. On another thread someone was lamenting that there is no XLR out... at this price point I'd rather not have a DI out then to have a crappy one... YMMV
Bou...tique? Never heard of that brand.
Almost all of my pedals cost me under $100 bucks - a few of them under $50, but I totally agree with your reasoning here.
Heck, the Zoom Multistomps let you put effects in any order. You can even put multiple copies of the same effect in any of the 4, 5, or 6 slots.
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I remembered seeing one or two that did. That must have been one of them. Which is why I said "most" wouldn't - rather than "none" would let you do that. 
Figure Zoom is one of them. If you're looking at multis, Zoom has advanced functionality nailed. They make a decent product. Very cutting edge.
Zoom G5n will let you do up to 9 stomps total (if you don't use amp modeling and stick to effects), and the B3n/G3n will do up to 7 stomps. Granted, you have to be somewhat selective, but for those who want to load up on a fairly standard serial chain of virtual stomps, these go a long way and do a pretty good job. Good bang-for-buck. Patch switching is actually very fast, too, compared to a lot of multi-fx modelers.
Many moons ago I had a Digitech RP-6. Anyone remember them?
It had several modes. You could scroll through all the presets one by one or in banks of four with the four lower ones toggling each preset.
You could set up user presets and have each bank of four as a song based selection to toggle between as needed.
You could use it like a set of preset stomp boxes with the bank pedals scrolling through user presets and having the four pedals operating distortion, modulation, delay and reverb effects.
Great bit of kit and so easy to use live. Surprised other makers never used that sort of range of interface options! Sounded good for its time too!
It had several modes. You could scroll through all the presets one by one or in banks of four with the four lower ones toggling each preset.
You could set up user presets and have each bank of four as a song based selection to toggle between as needed.
You could use it like a set of preset stomp boxes with the bank pedals scrolling through user presets and having the four pedals operating distortion, modulation, delay and reverb effects.
Great bit of kit and so easy to use live. Surprised other makers never used that sort of range of interface options! Sounded good for its time too!
Many moons ago I had a Digitech RP-6. Anyone remember them?
It had several modes. You could scroll through all the presets one by one or in banks of four with the four lower ones toggling each preset.
You could set up user presets and have each bank of four as a song based selection to toggle between as needed.
You could use it like a set of preset stomp boxes with the bank pedals scrolling through user presets and having the four pedals operating distortion, modulation, delay and reverb effects.
Great bit of kit and so easy to use live. Surprised other makers never used that sort of range of interface options! Sounded good for its time too!
I knew a guitarist who had one of these sitting around. I played around with it a little and it sounded alright, but this was through a nice tube amp.
I have always found some truths about multi effects:d
1. You have to grok the user interface, some are easier than others.
2. You have to create your own sounds and patches, factory presets are at best starting places but usually suck.
3. You will have to preload effects in an order that works for you.
4. Use them for what they do best and mix with other pedals
5. It Will Take Time And Much Tweaking Before You Reach Your Nirvana.
1. You have to grok the user interface, some are easier than others.
2. You have to create your own sounds and patches, factory presets are at best starting places but usually suck.
3. You will have to preload effects in an order that works for you.
4. Use them for what they do best and mix with other pedals
5. It Will Take Time And Much Tweaking Before You Reach Your Nirvana.
If you like / liked the sound, I say run it through a true bypass box! I'm a big fan of multi FX units and have been running different ones live for about 10 years with the help of a homemade true bypass box. It takes a little extra space but well worth it imho. I can get back to "bass straight into amp" tone almost instantly. My current setup:
bypass box with 3 loops, made from an old amp foot switch - ugly but functional
bypass box with 3 loops, made from an old amp foot switch - ugly but functional
Yep. good old Bass POD XT Live. I generally just use it for some chorus and overdrive and let my amp and cabinet do the amp and cabinet modeling. For recording, it's pretty fast and easy.
I've sort of outgrown it, but it has served me well for the better part of a decade. Gigged a lot and with no mechanical or electronic issues. Used to really have fun when I had it paired up with a Variax bass as well. I had bass models, FX and amp, cab and even mic models preset for nearly every song.
Boss GT-10B, for one, will receive CC messages via midi/USB giving you a wide range of ways to change patches. I'd check the manual for the 1B... good chance it is still a feature.
This opens up the possibility of midi pedal setups, automated midi instructuons run off a DAW ...or, my setlist/chart app that I have onstage with me now, will send a CC msg when you change songs, which you can of course use to change to the appropriate patch. It runs vice versa as well, which may get interesting to experiment with.
This opens up the possibility of midi pedal setups, automated midi instructuons run off a DAW ...or, my setlist/chart app that I have onstage with me now, will send a CC msg when you change songs, which you can of course use to change to the appropriate patch. It runs vice versa as well, which may get interesting to experiment with.
That's how the Boss GT-10B works. Pretty easy to use live IME. You can have banks of four effects available.
The 1B manual is simple and short. No mention of midi integration. The software controller is due out in Sept. Maybe a lot more will be included. To date I've read of it being for creation of patches, not live control. We'll see.
If you like the sounds I would return it within the grace period and get the boss MS-3 if you want a boss multi. It's seems to be much easier to use and probably has identical algorithms as I'm pretty sure it uses the same effects engine. plus you get the bonus of being able to use dedicated pedals for some sounds because it has three loops that can be used to control dedicated pedals.
