I watched most of it. It sounded like the Rumble was set to noon and not flat - did they show the EQ top panels somewhere at the end?
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Boss Katana Bass ...
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Just about the andertons video, they confirmed that the 60Watts of the Katana was similar in volume to the Rumble 100 when they cranked them both up in their room, definitely promising, I am getting my Katana 210 tomorrow, can't wait!
The difference between 60 watts and 100 watts is just a tad over 2dB, so I wouldn't expect to hear much difference, especially in an online video. I'm not sure how it puts anything to rest about Class AB and Class D anything; "sounds about the same" is hardly an empirical comparison in my book.
I enjoyed the Bass the World video, if I end up buying the 210 that review will be the reason. All of the effects and presets seem level. I had a helluva time getting the Rumble 800 combo tamed by comparison.
You are one of a few on this thread/topic that understand watts,loudness,decibels.More than a few times on here I tried to describe the same thing about watts,decibels and loudness and some people replied it was a marketing scam,a fool and his $ are easily parted,at only a 160 watts it wont be loud enough etc.Look at that review that someone put on the Sweetwater site that had never even heard or played the amp.I tried to descibe how the Fender Rumble 500 210 most likely wouldnt be any louder than the Katana 210 and very few on here believed it and now here is a video from Andertons comparing the Rumble 100 112 vs the Katana 110 and even the reviewer playing the Katana mentioned the punch and dynamics it had over the Rumble 100 on the Final thoughts.Well I heard it as well.To me that is what I like about class ab over class d.Again I would like to mention this.Roland/Boss is a huge player in the music gear business and they very easily could have obtained/purchased class d modules from a variety of manufacturers that would have been cheaper,lighter,most likely more profit for them but they didnt because they believe that class ab sounds better! If you dont hear a difference in that video or care about better tone there are plenty of class d amps out there that will suit you just fine.For me Boss is one of the first amp manufacturers out there that want to bring high end/cost no object sound and tone down to reasonable $ and that is why the Katana 210 appeals to me and I ended up buying one.And for everybody else if your happy with your class d amp what matters.Why care what I say,play on.But it never ceases to amaze me the things people will say on here without a single fact to back it up.I own the Katana 210.Ive heard,played it and I think it sounds better than a comparable class d combo thats all.If you disagree with me thats your right,so be it.
I will probably only use a fraction of the effects this amp[Katana 210]has.After using it a bit more with the 6 different types of compression I can really dial in a deep tight tone that sounds awesome.6 different types of od/distortion and 12 effects you can change your tone with makes this amp very unique.If any of you try the Katana 210 or 110 out in a music store make sure you check some of those features out.Anybody else on here got their Katana 210,110 yet and care to comment.
I put my order in from Sam Ash, currently in stock. They're offering a $75 credit with their card this month, so that covers the tax and a little more. It's not much, but I'll take a deal where I can. 
scottfeldstein
Roots and fifths and a little extra.
I have the Mk II guitar amp just for messing around at home and I think it's great. I'm just disappointed that they only offer this in a 110 and 210 configuration. I don't want either of those. I'm afraid the 110 won't be as loud as I would like and the 210 will be too heavy. C'mon. 112 cabs are king these days. My Hartke KB112 Kickback combo is totally gigable and weighs 28 pounds. Perfect.
That said, an amp like this would scratch a lot of itches for me. Like if I do a quick couple of songs at an open mic, the combo is great. But I'm way too spoiled by all my effects and "infrastructure" pedals on my board. I can't go without all that stuff, but I certainly can't drag my big board on and off stage in settings like this. Right now my solution is the Zoom MS-60B. I dial in a comp and an amp sim and with the built in tuner I'm set. The Katana would be even more convenient I think. Certainly more flexible.
That said, an amp like this would scratch a lot of itches for me. Like if I do a quick couple of songs at an open mic, the combo is great. But I'm way too spoiled by all my effects and "infrastructure" pedals on my board. I can't go without all that stuff, but I certainly can't drag my big board on and off stage in settings like this. Right now my solution is the Zoom MS-60B. I dial in a comp and an amp sim and with the built in tuner I'm set. The Katana would be even more convenient I think. Certainly more flexible.
You might be surprised how loud the 60 watt Katana 110 would get.If you watch that video from Andertons thru some headphones or good speakers where can hear nuances of music gear they compare a Fender Rumble 100 112 class d combo to the 60 watt ab Katana 110 combo you can hear the Katana 110 has no problem hanging with the 100 watt class d Rumble amp and to me the Katana 110 sounds like it has more punch and has a tighter bass response[the one reviewer thinks so to] but listen to it yourself and you be the judge.So do you think your Hartke Kickback 112 would really be any louder than the Fender despite the power rating which isnt any louder than the Katana 110.And dont forget you can leave your effects at home with the Katana because you would have the superior Boss effects in the Katana.That there easily makes up for a few extra lbs the Katana is.And if you dont like it,send it back.
scottfeldstein
Roots and fifths and a little extra.
The Hartke KB112 is rated 250w RMS. The Katana 110 is rated at 60. But I'm actually more concerned that a single 10" driver can't produce good low end at gig volumes. It's somewhat arbitrary, sure, but for me that cutoff is the 112. Yes, I agree that the Katana would solve a lot of effect-related issues for me, especially if I grabbed that footswitch thing they have.
The only thing that would tell is a trip to the nearest dealer that sells them and hear for yourself whether it would have enough low end and or be loud enough.Only you can be the judge of that.Im someone that is coming from using a Mesa 400+ and a pair of 210 cabinets to the Katana 210 and Im making it work.Have fun.
For anyone that already has one - are the frequency points for the EQ available? I haven't found them yet.
I just looked thru the owners manual for my 210 combo and didnt see any such specs listed.I can tell from experience that they do work well if that helps at all and I havent gotten into editing yet where I think most of this would be adjusting things till it pleases your ear/gives you the desired results.
Mine arrived today and after going through it for about an hour, this may not be for me.
With the GK Legacy Combo, my passive bass couldn't push the amp input, even with the trim all the way up.
With this combo:
-10 pad engaged
preamp gain set all the way down to 0, preamp master at 10
no compression/drive/effects
EQ and master volume both at noon
I'm still getting preamp distortion with fingerstyle, especially on the lower notes. It's like the speakers are blown.
This is either working as intended with their tube response software, or I received a dud. Odd, since the 5-6 videos out there didn't have this issue.
With the GK Legacy Combo, my passive bass couldn't push the amp input, even with the trim all the way up.
With this combo:
-10 pad engaged
preamp gain set all the way down to 0, preamp master at 10
no compression/drive/effects
EQ and master volume both at noon
I'm still getting preamp distortion with fingerstyle, especially on the lower notes. It's like the speakers are blown.
This is either working as intended with their tube response software, or I received a dud. Odd, since the 5-6 videos out there didn't have this issue.
You either have an defective unit or something isnt set right that your overlooking because I have the 210 combo and it is deep,tight and clean and I am using a Fender Deluxe Active Precision that has an 18 volt preamp.In passive as well I can get surprisingly loud before I start hearing any signs of flapping the speakers.It sounds like to me something in your settings that you have missed because my bass in active comes way up in volume over passive and still have plenty of clean volume and im a pick player that plays fairly hard.Last wednesday I was practicing with a loud drummer and a guitar player with a Marshall combo and had plenty of clean volume with some room to spare.Make sure your drive on the input[1st knob on left] EFX is turned counter clockwise off and drive button off.And try either flat or modern in amplifier types.Good luck.
Sorry if these are obvious things you’ve already checked, but is there anything else in your signal chain or is your bass plugged directly into the amp? I know you said your pickups are passive, but does your bass have a preamp, and if so, when was the last time you changed the battery?
Hi, I believe I am having the same issue, I’ve only been able to use the app at home for now so not pushing it past a low level of volume.
I noticed this when using headphones, and I recommend you do the same, despite having gain as low as possible, no effects activated and trying all three amp types (vintage flat modern) I am getting an overdriven sound even at low volume, and adding gain or even just raising master volume makes it very noticeable, for reference, I am playing a jazz bass with flats, so not what I was expecting.
If you could confirm this also occurs for you with headphones, I think we might have the same problem, not a speaker issue but perhaps with the preamp.
Plugged directly in. There's no preamp. The LPs on their own have a weak output.
I have my return authorization. This one is going back.
