Does anyone bring their own mic for mic'ing your rig?
What would be a good one to carry.
Also any ideas on cab mounts for mics?
What would be a good one to carry.
Also any ideas on cab mounts for mics?
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Bring your own mic to gigs?
- Thread starter Faijex
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I use a Shure SM57 to mic when I need to. I've used a Shure Green Bullet to mic before too. Pretty interesting tone the Green Bullet got.
ShiftyShift said:
I am not familiar with the green bullit, I will have to look into this.
The reason I started this thread was last week at a gig, the sound guy asked me to hit the ground lift on my amp's DI, changed some settings, looked puzzled, came and looked at my amp head, and toggled the switch again, and eventually said we should mic it, he said the electrics of the Venue reeked havoc on my bass amps.
I currently have a GK RB700
But the bassist in the previous bands amp did give the sound guy
Any trouble, he had an Eden head though. But neither of us had DI boxes.
Anyways just thinking about picking up a quality mic, does anyone have any insight on difference in tone between Mic'ing and DI'ing
You can also just pick up a quality DI, it's a little more universally excepted than a mic. Search away for differences in a DI vs Mics there should be quite a few threads.
If you care about how you sound FOH and want to be sure your soundguy is using the best choice, it wouldn't hurt
As many times as I've been mic'd, and some of the choices were obviously not the best, I'm tempted to research a good bass cab mic and pick one up myself.
I always carry my own personl preference vocal microphone with me. It stands to reason this should apply to your bass too, if you find yourself being mic'd alot.
Dave, we need to have a chat.
The D112 is a kick drum mic, and has a very nice midscoop to it. sounds great by itself but in a mix puts you in direct competition with the kick drum. That's a battle you'll never win.
I have a Radial JDI i bring, and i recently picked up a Shure SM7b that i'm very excited to start using.
The D112 is a kick drum mic, and has a very nice midscoop to it. sounds great by itself but in a mix puts you in direct competition with the kick drum. That's a battle you'll never win.
I have a Radial JDI i bring, and i recently picked up a Shure SM7b that i'm very excited to start using.
Many sound guys are appreciative when you bring your own mic. I also suggest bringing your own stand and a separate DI box. It's less work for them in the end, and you have some control of the end result. When miking your rig, you are getting the sound of everything in your signal chain through the speaker.
With the DI signal - you typically give the sound man the sound of just your bass or the amp head or just effects or a combination of all.
At my show last night, I gave the sound man the sound of my bass guitar through a Radial JDI and miked the 210's with an Audix D4. The JDI was just my bass only while the mic captured the sound of my distortion pedal through my rig. When the distortion was not on, it was just my stage tone which is a little different sounding than just my bass guitar alone. He mixed both sources well - when I stepped out near the PA speakers; I got to hear a GREAT bass tone! Very close to what I actually wanted to hear from the PA.
With the DI signal - you typically give the sound man the sound of just your bass or the amp head or just effects or a combination of all.
At my show last night, I gave the sound man the sound of my bass guitar through a Radial JDI and miked the 210's with an Audix D4. The JDI was just my bass only while the mic captured the sound of my distortion pedal through my rig. When the distortion was not on, it was just my stage tone which is a little different sounding than just my bass guitar alone. He mixed both sources well - when I stepped out near the PA speakers; I got to hear a GREAT bass tone! Very close to what I actually wanted to hear from the PA.
I bring my Heil PR40. I've tried to make peace with DI's, but a good sounding cab mic'ed with a good sounding mic just blows it away as far as I'm concerned. Even a 57 with a DI for the lows sounds better than straight DI to me. I figured the only way I could get a good mic on my gigs is to bring my own, and for the most part I've been right. I don't fly with it, but I bring it on all my local gigs. I also bring my own stand or Z-Bar, so the soundman can't complain about having to go dig up a stand.
Hi.
For stage clarity reasons I usually use my SVTDI to the PA (+ a lower power "monitor" rig obviously), but if I use a mic for recording purposes for example, it's either a AKG D12 or Sennheiser MD421.
Regards
Sam
For stage clarity reasons I usually use my SVTDI to the PA (+ a lower power "monitor" rig obviously), but if I use a mic for recording purposes for example, it's either a AKG D12 or Sennheiser MD421.
Regards
Sam
Hi.
Only if the sound person is a totally clueless how to EQ and mix the band.
I do not agree of the D112 sounding great with about anything though, it's NOTHING like its predecessor D12 it was supposed to "replace". IME/IMHO anyway.
True, one can coaxe the "mainstream" bass drum tone (mainstream at one point in time anyway
) with it, but otherwise I view it as one of the rare failures when it comes down to AKG mics.
Dave, if You like it, great, but I'd keep my eyes open for some other mics out there as well.
Regards
Sam
Only if the sound person is a totally clueless how to EQ and mix the band.
I do not agree of the D112 sounding great with about anything though, it's NOTHING like its predecessor D12 it was supposed to "replace". IME/IMHO anyway.
True, one can coaxe the "mainstream" bass drum tone (mainstream at one point in time anyway
) with it, but otherwise I view it as one of the rare failures when it comes down to AKG mics.Dave, if You like it, great, but I'd keep my eyes open for some other mics out there as well.
Regards
Sam
That has been my feeling, can you suggest any stands/Z-Bar?
I currently have a 410.
BTW how often and why do you fly? It's always interesting to get insight into other bands travel arrangements. If my band ever goes on a tour around the country, I imagine having to fly to meet them for some of the shows. Too hard to be away for extended lengths of time. It's frustrating being the member with commitments, but it's nice being in with guys who don't have any.
Also, what made you choose the PR40, how many did you try out before you settled with that?
Any mic stand that will line up a speaker will work. The Z Bar is also quite good as long as you have a way to hang it. And I chose the PR40 based on rave reviews from Justin Meldal-Johnsen. But I had tried a few other mics like the RE20, Sennheiser MD421, Beyer M88, a couple different Shures. They were all cool except the kick mics, but the PR40 was $75 less and much lighter than the RE20, which I would have gotten if not for the Heil.
As for the travel, we used to drive in an RV everywhere, except the RV kept breaking down, and a trip to Montana once made all of us suicidal. We soon phased the RV out and now we fly if it's longer than a 5 hour drive.
I have very limited performance experience. Most of that has been small venues where the amp has carried its own. So, maybe I am missing something. I just do not understand the concept of finding that just right sound coming from that just right rig and then bypassing right by it when the big day comes. Why would I DI when there are options for getting that great sound I have tweaked and tweaked out there. Again, maybe just inexperience talking.
No, it's not. I agree 100%. I always get the excuse, "What you're getting out of your amp isn't going to sound the same in the house if you mic it." To which I reply, "It will if you listen to what's coming out of my amp and try to match it."
I bring my RE20 everywhere I play. I love it! Never tried a PR40 but have heard plenty of good things. A lot of sound men will look at me funny as I start setting up my mic but I tell them I have a DI box I'll use if they don't like the signal they get. Funny thing is...there has been no sound guy who has told me to switch after hearing the mic.
I find it's best to bring all the gear you can. I bring my mic, mic stand, 25' XLR and a DI box.
I find it's best to bring all the gear you can. I bring my mic, mic stand, 25' XLR and a DI box.
