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Broughton Audio Super Thread

You're not wrong about that. It would be more respectful of customers' time to provide a specific drop time.

But that's not how Broughton Audio works: it's Josh's business so, while we can choose whether or not to support it, he gets to decide how his drops are structured. That said, he:
  • keeps his prices affordable relative to his peers.
  • regularly introduces new products. This year we got the Subsonic, Proto DI, and the Fantasm.
  • he doesn't bundle preamps and pedals.
  • doesn't post condescending updates to his website.
  • has been making an effort of late to ensure popular products are (eventually) available in sufficient supply. Prominent examples being the Omnicomp, JoshWah, and Scorpion, but I see the re-re-release and refinement of older pedals as further evidence of this practice. This year alone Broughton dropped the Archetype Valve Boost (now with upgraded power supply), the Messenger (now in 125B size), the PLL (also in 125B size), and an additional round of Proto DIs. There's also a revised Resound and Modulation Station on the horizon. Furthermore, Broughton Audio dropped batches of the RFE, the Calamity, the FFXL, the Scorpion, the Silver Deluxe, and the Studio Boost Mini (another re-sized pedal, though one already in existence) this year. Plus the new pedals mentioned above. And then there's the upcoming Christmas drop. That's a lot for a solo builder! And I'm probably forgetting a drop or two. All this to say that what Broughton Audio lacks in quantity of drop size, it more than makes up for in quantity of drops. And quality of product, of course. When you think about it as a whole, it's actually quite astounding how much Josh builds in a year.
All this to say that while I agree the unknown drop time does force customers to spend more of their time (and to lose sleep) than is necessary, I'm willing to indulge this quirk of Josh's because of how else he runs his business. He's earned that.

Look away! It's centered in your dreams, if not your memory :)
Yes, that. There are definitely small builders with more available products, but not many that are subject to a similar level of demand. The way Josh juggles the demand for his products with him actually delivering is refreshing.

I feel like announced drop times would just make the feeling worse, because after you don't get what you were gunning for-- and there is somebody who won't, because the supply is still limited-- you're gonna feel bad because you managed to miss it even when you knew the drop time. The random drop time is equally unfair to everybody, barring the issue of time zone. But at that point, personal schedules can vary a lot in terms of how convenient the "standard, new product, announced drop" window is. I personally am in a time zon
 
You're not wrong about that. It would be more respectful of customers' time to provide a specific drop time.

But that's not how Broughton Audio works: it's Josh's business so, while we can choose whether or not to support it, he gets to decide how his drops are structured. That said, he:
  • keeps his prices affordable relative to his peers.
  • regularly introduces new products. This year we got the Subsonic, Proto DI, and the Fantasm.
  • he doesn't bundle preamps and pedals.
  • doesn't post condescending updates to his website.
  • has been making an effort of late to ensure popular products are (eventually) available in sufficient supply. Prominent examples being the Omnicomp, JoshWah, and Scorpion, but I see the re-re-release and refinement of older pedals as further evidence of this practice. This year alone Broughton dropped the Archetype Valve Boost (now with upgraded power supply), the Messenger (now in 125B size), the PLL (also in 125B size), and an additional round of Proto DIs. There's also a revised Resound and Modulation Station on the horizon. Furthermore, Broughton Audio dropped batches of the RFE, the Calamity, the FFXL, the Scorpion, the Silver Deluxe, and the Studio Boost Mini (another re-sized pedal, though one already in existence) this year. Plus the new pedals mentioned above. And then there's the upcoming Christmas drop. That's a lot for a solo builder! And I'm probably forgetting a drop or two. All this to say that what Broughton Audio lacks in quantity of drop size, it more than makes up for in quantity of drops. And quality of product, of course. When you think about it as a whole, it's actually quite astounding how much Josh builds in a year.
All this to say that while I agree the unknown drop time does force customers to spend more of their time (and to lose sleep) than is necessary, I'm willing to indulge this quirk of Josh's because of how else he runs his business. He's earned that.

Look away! It's centered in your dreams, if not your memory :)


Of course. I did not intend to smash Mr. Broughton or his business. This would be out of place and quite impolite.

However, I have to adjust my priorities and decisions just as anyone else. And I am not willing to sacrifice more of my precious time for this game. So I am out. This is an entirely personal decision and not an invitation to start a revolution.
But since we are discussing those drops and the consequences here I think posting dissatisfaction should be possible, too.
 
An impeccably polite rage quit. My hat is off.

:D Not rage. After all, you know what you're getting into before the game starts. The only viable target for any kind of rage would be myself. And that is not a comfortable option. :smug:

Just the threshhold of time invested vs. frustration earned reached and breached. At that point, a change has to be made.
 
Look away! It's centered in your dreams, if not your memory :)


Ahhh :)

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I feel like announced drop times would just make the feeling worse, because after you don't get what you were gunning for-- and there is somebody who won't, because the supply is still limited-- you're gonna feel bad because you managed to miss it even when you knew the drop time. The random drop time is equally unfair to everybody, barring the issue of time zone. But at that point, personal schedules can vary a lot in terms of how convenient the "standard, new product, announced drop" window is. I personally am in a time zon
I disagree :) I'd rather spent a few minutes trying for something than hours of my life F5ing. I never expect to get any of these drops. It's always a miracle because, as you say, the supply is just too limited. So I'm not examining the "fairness" of the time zone at all, just the time investment. (Which, too, is "unfair" since it privileges retirees and jobs with flexibility.) I don't think there's a perfect solution. I just know the uncertain time and low levels of supply require insane luck or dedicated hours F5ing.

Of course. I did not intend to smash Mr. Broughton or his business. This would be out of place and quite impolite.

However, I have to adjust my priorities and decisions just as anyone else. And I am not willing to sacrifice more of my precious time for this game. So I am out. This is an entirely personal decision and not an invitation to start a revolution.
But since we are discussing those drops and the consequences here I think posting dissatisfaction should be possible, too.
I didn't read your post as smashing anyone :) Indeed, I concurred with your remarks on time and then I shared how I make sense of that bizarre (and admittedly frustrating) feature of the brand because I've had similar thoughts. I apologize if you felt I was suggesting you were impolite. Quite the opposite!