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Broughton L+hpf replacement, can't find original

#21
Swipter said:
I bought the EBS Multicomp.
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I looked this up, it appears to be a nice compressor but you are aware that's not the same thing as a high/low pass filter, correct?

If I am repeating information you already know, I apologize in advance, but just in case...

A compressor smooths out the peaks and valleys of your signal. So the very loud stuff gets a little quieter, the very quiet stuff gets a little louder. There's a bit more to it than that, but that's the basic function of a compressor.

A high pass filter diminishes frequencies below a certain point. Some HPFs have that point as a variable, like the Broughton pedal. Basically it helps cut out muddy/rumbly subsonic frequencies that you can't hear well anyway so your speakers aren't working too hard, which cleans up your sound and makes your rig more efficient.

A low pass filter is the opposite, it filters out high end frequencies. It's useful for taking care of things like string noise, hiss, or stray noise from your pedals.

There are some pedals out there that do both, but from what I can see the EBS multicomp does not have a built in HPF/LPF, at least not one that's controllable from the knobs and buttons on the pedal. Maybe there's some always on filtering built into it, but I can't find anything about that with my 5 minutes of googling.
 
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#22
Swipter said:
I am looking for a lpf hpf. I can't find the broughton. Is there another that is good? I don't want to break the bank.

I am mainly trying to cut the highs I get with the yyz pedal. I only have issues with the pedal. I figured a would get the combo pedal and people seem to love broughton.

I tried to message @Azure Skies but his box is full.

Thanks
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Check out some of my posts here... I had the same issues with the YYZ and MP40... I successfully used a compressor (an EBS Multicomp, incidentally) after these overdrives and had good results... you might too.

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Isaac_James said:
I looked this up, it appears to be a nice compressor but you are aware that's not the same thing as a high/low pass filter, correct?

If I am repeating information you already know, I apologize in advance, but just in case...

A compressor smooths out the peaks and valleys of your signal. So the very loud stuff gets a little quieter, the very quiet stuff gets a little louder. There's a bit more to it than that, but that's the basic function of a compressor.

A high pass filter diminishes frequencies below a certain point. Some HPFs have that point as a variable, like the Broughton pedal. Basically it helps cut out muddy/rumbly subsonic frequencies that you can't hear well anyway so your speakers aren't working too hard, which cleans up your sound and makes your rig more efficient.

A low pass filter is the opposite, it filters out high end frequencies. It's useful for taking care of things like string noise, hiss, or stray noise from your pedals.

There are some pedals out there that do both, but from what I can see the EBS multicomp does not have a built in HPF/LPF, at least not one that's controllable from the knobs and buttons on the pedal. Maybe there's some always on filtering built into it, but I can't find anything about that with my 5 minutes of googling.
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It has knobs inside to adjust highs and lows, one of each. Thanks for your information. I do understand the hpf and lpf, after I researched. I understand a compressor, my Eden amp has one. I just needed more. I think the ebs should do the trick. If not, I'll sell it and get the broughton.
 
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Swipter said:
It has knobs inside to adjust highs and lows, one of each. Thanks for your information. I do understand the hpf and lpf, after I researched. I understand a compressor, my Eden amp has one. I just needed more. I think the ebs should do the trick. If not, I'll sell it and get the broughton.
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Best of luck then, I hope it does what you want it to!
 
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Swipter said:
Cancelled my order. I still need to think about this. Confused about the Broughton and ebs.
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They are two totally different things. Neither will do what the other does, but they actually would work great together. And the trimpot inside the EBS does not adjust bass and treble, it adjusts the balance between the compression bands.

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Cave Puppy said:
The Genzler RE/Q has a Switchable HPF and LPF.
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Great pedal, but the LPF "only" goes down to 1 KHz.
That's plenty for a lot of people, probably most people, but not everyone. For example myself, I often go well below 1 KHz with the Broughton (down to ~300 Hz) or an SFX unit I've got that goes down to 145 Hz. I rarely go that low but I sometimes go under 300 Hz.

MarkBass used to make a "SuperBooster" pedal that included their VLE filter. Essentially a LPF that goes down to 250 Hz. It's discontinued but you can still find it on eBay etc for not a lot of money.
 
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#34
Swipter said:
Will cut the high clack and string noise from the yyz pedal? I only have those issues using that pedal, and understand why.
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I have the YYZ pedal and I find it to be an extremely versatile pedal, with great eq possibilities.
From what I've read maybe your problems are connected with the tight switch. Just turn it off and try again with the pedal. The tight gives a boost to high mids and highs to make it more clanky. If you turn it off it will loose all that extra clank and fret noise. Also the secret is to bring in more of the low end with the mix between the deep (clean low passed tone) and the drive channel.
That tight is to get some of the Geddy tones that have that clankyness that he tames with the deep channel to keep the low end.
 
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Nunovsky said:
I have the YYZ pedal and I find it to be an extremely versatile pedal, with great eq possibilities.
From what I've read maybe your problems are connected with the tight switch. Just turn it off and try again with the pedal. The tight gives a boost to high mids and highs to make it more clanky. If you turn it off it will loose all that extra clank and fret noise. Also the secret is to bring in more of the low end with the mix between the deep (clean low passed tone) and the drive channel.
That tight is to get some of the Geddy tones that have that clankyness that he tames with the deep channel to keep the low end.
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Thank you, I'll give it a go.
 
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I got the pedal today and tested it. It isn't what I'm looking for and I don't hear any difference. Yes, I hear compression but that's not what I need.

I ordered the Broughton l+high pedal. I think that may more uses, jazz, blues, etc.
 
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Swipter said:
I got the pedal today and tested it. It isn't what I'm looking for and I don't hear any difference. Yes, I hear compression but that's not what I need.

I ordered the Broughton l+high pedal. I think that may more uses, jazz, blues, etc.
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I was wondering how this thread started out with an LHPF want and ended with a compressor purchase. Either way, the LHPF is one of the best pedals you can add to your signal chain. You will not regret it!
 
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