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Build II - Paradox MJ5 - New design!

Then again, all large brands show their work in pretty high res and perfectly traceable photographs. You cannot prevent it and you do want to show your work, don't you?

Large brands own copyrights to their designs Rob, so they can protect their design from being stolen if they want to. In the case of luthiers here, the ones who've still not made it big, should refrain from posting designs until they do become big and own copyrights to their designs. You do wan't to show your work, but then there should be a balance I guess between how much you show, how much you don't :hmm:
 
As sad as it is... it seems pretty blatant at this point. I hate to cast aspersions but there is a certain mocking tone to this guy that makes me think its all intentional... what a shame he jumped into one of the nicest builds on here.

At any rate, really great work... I've said it before, if this bass was a car it would be an Enzo. It looks fast standing still and is a true work of art. Well done. Id buy one from you in a second.
 
Rob-

I'm on the road for the third week now and enjoying all the great updates on the bass. It looks fantastic and I can't wait to hear how she plays!!!

Unfortunately it looks like you're being jerked around with a thoughtless jerk - Serafan Raziel I'm talking to you - and I hope it doesn't ruin your enjoyment or satisfaction.

To Serafan, I'm going to personally report your actions to the moderators and do everything I possibly can to ensure that your experience a lifetime ban on Talkbass. You are a classless, thoughtless jerk who has no business being here.

Lonnybass
 
Serafan - we don't act that way here. I've deleted your posts.

Thank you Joshua!

Rob-

I'm on the road for the third week now and enjoying all the great updates on the bass. It looks fantastic and I can't wait to hear how she plays!!!

Thanks! Give me a little bit of time to fine tune it and to get some decent tunes out of it, and I will share.

If you have any suggestions what to play for a demo I'd like to hear from you :smug:

Deep breath...

Rob, you've done great work and have plenty of witnesses and time-stamped proof of your design. It might be worthwhile to take further action to protect your intellectual property going forward. In the meantime, I for one am anxiously awaiting the conclusion of your build.

Thank you Johnny! I know, I've got a lot of time-stamped proof, no worries there.
 
Rob-

If you beat me to the punch with demo recordings, man, I'm such a bum! I've been meaning to get sample tracks up for well over a year now and haven't gotten around to it. Every time I look at getting a new recording interface I find some new effects pedal gadget diverts my attention!

Lonnybass
 
Didn't mean anything with that Lonny, just asking for a good tip for a demo recording.. ;)

Well, I think you want to get a couple different types of tracks recorded so you can show the tonal range on the bass...neck pickup only, bridge pickup only, blended pickup, and then some percussive slap'n pop'n stuff to show off how responsive the thing is dynamically (this is the approach I've been meaning to take for a while and will do hopefully as soon as I can finish my builds underway!)

I'd also aim for using a preamp and interface that doens't put a lot of coloration on the front end so that the natural sound of the bass comes through without being affected by other parameters.

Of course, you could just ship the thing to me so I could hear it with my own ears. :cool:

Lonnybass
 
Thanks guys!

@Gonzalo: how is your bass? Are you planning any new builds?
My bass is doing fine, I've tried to get some clips but entropy has been all around, including a dead computer and plenty of traveling. Plus I've been dealing with an issue that I haven't been able to solve, so I guess I'm going to ask the guys here. I already started my new project but I'm taking it with a lot of calm.
I'm really glad that you have almost finish your baby and that it went so well.
It never ceases to amaze me the attitude of some people, like this punk you have here. I mean, steal and kind of brag about it it's too much.
That said, I think that's very naive to post those detailed renders as you did. I mean, it's so straight forward to replicate them that even I could do it. As we say in my home country "opportunity makes the thief"
I also wonder why this guy is still around and not badly banned
I don´t know if you did but if your intention is to keep your design to yourself I´d start by taking those renders out.
Suraj, you surely are in the same boat :hmm:

Anyway, my sincere congrats Rob
 
It was small enough, and skewed, to make any bass produced from that very inaccurate. I put renderings up to share my design, the only way to get feedback at that stage. I don't like to be called naive. I think it is naive to think letting away those renderings will prevent such behavior; you could easily get the same result from photographs. Next to that, one could even steal an idea by recreating without having anything to trace. I remember you also put some detailed renderings on TB in the design process. I think we all should be able to do so; if someone wants to share, it's okay, if not, let's respect that from each other.

All renderings are removed, which is a shame because they contributed to the storytelling of my building adventure.

After having the bass in my hand for the first time, I have some findings regarding the design; mostly positive, one or two things I'd like to improve. I will, however, not share these thoughts, nor will I share the improved design. I think that allows me to improve, while others only have a very shallow copy of the original but out dated design.

I always found it cool to share my beginning hobby luthier adventure in such detail. Some post about five shots and a paragraph of text of their build; I shared all thoughts, mistakes and repairs. This made my thread immensely useful for myself, getting great feedback and involvement, learning a lot, but also enabling others to learn from that, to see what one can do with a few simple power tools and to show how a design could evolve.

It's sad, but also realistic, that this attracts people who like to call you names, who like to shout what rubbish you produce, and also people that shamelessly copy your work.

But let's not forget the vast majority contributes to this thread with a positive attitude, great input and heaps of enthusiasm. Over 10 people asked me via a PM if they could use my design in a very nice way and kindly responded after I said no, wished me all the best and respected my answer. Even a few people asked for a quote! How great is that!?

Nowhere in life you can get a 100% friends rate.. But the positive energy on TB is far above average. I make myself no illusions, there are people that are mean and people that steal.

To conclude this single post, but actually also this complete thread: what I have learned during the journey of building my Paradox bass is so great, both in outcome as in experience, I am very, very happy and proud. No one can ever take that away or make me feel bad about that. I now dare to say I am able to build a real (bass) guitar, which is something I always dreamt of. As a bonus, I have a new dream bass to play on!
 
This is a strange side note, but did anyone else notice that the very next post after Serafan's on his other website is a warning from the forum administrator about removing dozens of such photos, etcetera and that Serafan's already been warned? :D

But the real kicker is that the forum admin is Allex Costa! Our own allexcosta (now banned here). Might be worth contacting Allex directly Rob... :D

Karma's a beyotch...