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Buy a Precision and get off my lawn.

the wonderful thing about p bass
is p bass are wonderful things
they're curvy shaped with tight lil waist
and big ol' steely strings
they're full of thump, bump, pump and jump
and lots of fun fun fun
but the most wonderful thing about p bass
is having more than one

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Those are beautiful. I only own one :crying:
I want to grab a second p bass, one for flats one for rounds. My guitar player doesn't get it... "Buy a jazz" he always says.
 
View attachment 919694 I know she's a pig wearing lipstick...and equipped with the oft maligned tort and flats...but I love her!
Squier body, CIJ fender jazz neck (apologies to the purists), hipshot detuner, quarter pounders, cts pots with jazz knobs (again, sorry hardcore P guys) and a vintage fender guard. Should also add that the fake block inlays and poorly placed Fender decal were on there when I got the neck (attached to a different bass...)
I'm a big fan of customizing an instrument. Whether it's something big out small it gives the player a sense of attachment.

The only thing I've done so far is an EMG geezer and black guard. But a bridge and tuners aren't out of the question.
 
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Here's two of mine taking a break between sets.
 

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Always like seeing some P-Bass love. Like the OP said, they can cover any genre, they're simple, and they just work. I waited 10 years to get mine and it was well worth the wait. I always get complements on it's tone. You can't go wrong with a Precision. End of story. That said, here's a pic of my American Precision V along with the rest of the gang.
 
Why is a 'genuine' Fender body so important? I've heard of stories where even Fender themselves have used Warmoth parts to make custom guitars for famous players! A piece of wood cut to the same shape and tolerances as a 'Fender' piece is no more a Fender than any tree could be a 'Fender'.

Thinking like this my friend will cost you a lot of money, as you are just paying over the odds for a name -which even then is available as an after market transfer!

I have never seen, played or owned a Fender better than a Warmoth custom. Why people pay so much for them I will never understand (other than re-sale value I guess).

Peace,

Rob.

May I offer a reason? I just came from the Warmoth site, where I put together a parts list for the most basic Precision possible, no upgraded parts whatsoever. And no case or bag, either. Total came to $900 shipped. An unassembled box-o-parts...I do all the assembly work....or pay someone to do it for me.

Here is the typical American Standard Precision, available immediately. It includes some better features that are not included in my Warmoth parts list. Like a great hardcase, Fender's new "F" lightweight tuners (which are exceptionally nice), Posiflex graphite neck rods, Custom shop 60's pickup, high mass bridge with string thru body or top load feature, some case candy, and a full warranty. Total cost = $1350 shipped.

Fender American Standard Precision Bass Maple Fingerboard 3-Color Sunburst 34054

Summary: For $450 more, I get the additional upgrades mentioned above that I don't get from Warmoth. I get a fully assembled bass, ready to play, with full warranty and a return policy if anything is not as it should be. And I get it in 3-5 days. Not to mention that I retain more resale value if/when the time comes to sell the Fender. Used Fenders are easy to sell at a modest loss. Parts basses are not easy to sell without taking a massive loss. Even then, good luck finding a buyer.

The notion that buying a Fender involves "paying extra just for the name" simply doesn't add up. In truth, Fenders are very competitively priced, often less than their peer competitors. If I had upgraded the parts on my Warmoth list to equal what I get with the Fender, I'd be very close to the same cost. And I'd still have to assemble it. Pass.

Warmoth is fine for concocting a unique guitar with features and materials that are unavailable from the typical production builders, or if you just enjoy building parts guitars. But there is no money to be saved, as you will pay dearly for any serious upgraded parts from Warmoth.

Question: What recourse do you have when your completed Warmoth parts guitar turns out to not be as awesome as expected? Like a neck and body that don't happen get along very well with each other? I know what I can do if I get a "dud" production bass...I can exchange it for another one or return it for a refund.
 
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May I offer a reason? I just came from the Warmoth site, where I put together a parts list for the most basic Precision possible, no upgraded parts whatsoever. And no case or bag, either. Total came to $900 shipped. An unassembled box-o-parts...I do all the assembly work....or pay someone to do it for me.

Here is the typical American Standard Precision, available immediately. It includes some better features that are not included in my Warmoth parts list. Like a great hardcase, Fender's new "F" lightweight tuners (which are exceptionally nice), Posiflex graphite neck rods, Custom shop 60's pickup, high mass bridge with string thru body or top load feature, some case candy, and a full warranty. Total cost = $1350 shipped.

Fender American Standard Precision Bass Maple Fingerboard 3-Color Sunburst 34054

Summary: For $450 more, I get the additional upgrades mentioned above that I don't get from Warmoth. I get a fully assembled bass, ready to play, with full warranty and a return policy if anything is not as it should be. And I get it in 3-5 days. Not to mention that I retain more resale value if/when the time comes to sell the Fender. Used Fenders are easy to sell at a modest loss. Parts basses are not easy to sell without taking a massive loss. Even then, good luck finding a buyer.

The notion that buying a Fender involves "paying extra just for the name" simply doesn't add up. In truth, Fenders are very competitively priced, often less than their peer competitors. If I had upgraded the parts on my Warmoth list to equal what I get with the Fender, I'd be very close to the same cost. And I'd still have to assemble it. Pass.

Warmoth is fine for concocting a unique guitar with features and materials that are unavailable from the typical production builders, or if you just enjoy building parts guitars. But there is no money to be saved, as you will pay dearly for any serious upgraded parts from Warmoth.

Question: What recourse do you have when your completed Warmoth parts guitar turns out to not be as awesome as expected? Like a neck and body that don't happen get along very well with each other? I know what I can do if I get a "dud" production bass...I can exchange it for another one or return it for a refund.
Yes I agree, your points are valid reasons for buying a Fender.

Apart from resale value (and the obvious necessity to assemble the parts) I hadn't considered for those the inclusion of a Fender case or prefer Fender light weight tuners and high mass bridges.

I personally always prefer Hipshot Ultralites for tuners and have enough Hiscox Lite Flite cases already -although I always prefer gig bags.

I also really like Hipshot hardware in general. Their string tree / retainers are the best in the business and their bridges, which are available in brass or aluminium options, are also quick release designs. However, if you are into Fender bent plates or their own high mass bridges I can totally understand that being a factor, although even these parts are available separately.

For me though, it's the issue of necks that really decides it. Warmoth offer 21 -even 24 fret overhangs, a choice of profiles and nut widths, steel or graphite supporting rods, different sized and stainless steel frets, as well as various neck finishes. You can also choose the woods and grain patterns from their in stock supply or design one from the ground up.

Your points are all valid, especially regarding resale value so it's worth ordering well at the offset. I guess it's just a matter of what you're looking for from an instrument. I've never had a neck or body that didn't work together but if I did and couldn't modify it, I would probably just sell the part that wasn't working and reorder another.

Peace,

Rob.
 
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Thanks @Rickter !!

Post up some pics!! :bassist:
Here ya go sir! An older pic, pre purchase of my Fender P5. It's my rackbag with my Bmax T and Crown XLS power on an Avatar 212 with Eminence DeltaLites.
View media item 10023Had bought that BB 10 years ago to try to satisfy my craving for the American Fender P5 I found back then. Couldn't justify the purchase at that time. Very glad that I made the plunge recently and finally acquired the bass I have wanted for so long.