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Buyer using Zelle does this look like fraud?

Main difference is that PayPal will charge you anywhere from 3 to 13% for that "protection". Zelle has no fees.

That's fairly common knowledge. There's no free lunch, so insurance comes at a cost. 3% is pretty reasonable to me. I've never seen it higher than that. When/how doest it get to 13%? Is that when there's a currency exchange involved?
 
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Buyer wants to buy bass using Zelle for $1500.
Email arrives from "Zelle" that $1500 cannot be deposited into my account because I do NOT have a business account and tells buyer to send $500 more.
Buyer agrees to sent $500 more and asks me to refund him.
Zelle supposedly now will put $2000 on hold until I ship the bass but buyer wants $500 refunded right away. Email from Zelle shows zelle pay ([email protected])
Looks like fraud to ME!

avoid.
 
That's fairly common knowledge. There's no free lunch, so insurance comes at a cost. 3% is pretty reasonable to me. I've never seen it higher than that. When/how doest it get to 13%? Is that when there's a currency exchange involved?

eBay + PayPal will add up to ~13.

3% is completely unreasonable to me considering how much money PayPal makes already, your credit card company includes better protection at no cost. The second something else becomes popular I will happily close down my 15+ year old PayPal account and never look back.
 
It's not even remotely conceivable that the message you received was actually from Zelle.

Also, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." If someone tries to scam me once, there's no way I'm even going to give them a chance to scam me twice. I think you can safely ignore this person.
 
Buyer wants to buy bass using Zelle for $1500.
Email arrives from "Zelle" that $1500 cannot be deposited into my account because I do NOT have a business account and tells buyer to send $500 more.
Buyer agrees to sent $500 more and asks me to refund him.
Zelle supposedly now will put $2000 on hold until I ship the bass but buyer wants $500 refunded right away. Email from Zelle shows zelle pay ([email protected])
Looks like fraud to ME!
Fraud!! Run!
 
Yeah that is an old trick used on CL especially. Who would send an additional $500 with the hopes the other person would refund it?
The scam is not that. The scam is "I will send you a $2500 payment for this $2000 thing and you'll send me back the additional money." The additional money gets sent back to the scammer before the original $2500 payment is determined to be fraudulent. So the scammer gets $500.
 
Buyer wants to buy bass using Zelle for $1500.
Email arrives from "Zelle" that $1500 cannot be deposited into my account because I do NOT have a business account and tells buyer to send $500 more.
Buyer agrees to sent $500 more and asks me to refund him.
Zelle supposedly now will put $2000 on hold until I ship the bass but buyer wants $500 refunded right away. Email from Zelle shows zelle pay ([email protected])
Looks like fraud to ME!

THIS IS FRAUD. ZELLE DOES NOT REQUIRE A BUSINESS ACCOUNT. THIS IS A CLASSIC SCAM. I WON'T SAY WHO THE SCAMMER IS BUT ZELLE DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT