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Cabs for Super Bassman 300. Making Decisions.

Hey TB. I wrote a book. I hope someone will read it.

I've come into a couple grand that I would like to partially use for a pair of cabs to go with my SB300. Currently, I run the SB300 with a Player Series P-Bass with a 63 pure vintage coil, through an Avatar B212 with the Eminence 12s. I absolutely love the way it sounds, but the weight of the B212 with the headroom limitations is becoming a bit of a drag. Since the head itself is capable of 2 ohms, I am considering one of three configurations which I will list below.
I play punk rock with a grindy tone in one band, and more classic-rock eagles-ish stuff in the other band using a P Bass the whole time.


1. Two Markbass NY122 enclosures
I like this idea because I can get a cart for all of it, and I can use one or both for modularity. The cabs are wide enough to accommodate the head on top of them in a couple of different ways. This configuration features the most speaker cone surface area, but probably not ideal dispersion if they are next to each other. The head can handle two ohms, so this setup would work fine. I thought about the GK Neo 412 but it will not fit in my Civic. the two 122 cabs will fit in the car with my bass and the Super Bassman and the cart. Also would be loud. Very loud.

2. Two Fender Bassman 115 Neo Enclosures.
I like this because it is modular, lightweight, and the aesthetics match the head really well. I also get a heavy discount on Fender gear which makes this setup and setup#3 more attractive. This setup features the best speaker dispersion, but sacrifices about 100in^2 in cone area versus the 4x12. This also probably taxes the head a little less considering the 8ohm rating, and may offer the highest properly-dispersed SPL ability. This conclusion is not something I can back up with figures, but rather with rhetoric.
The only thing I really have a hard time getting over with this setup is the fact that it's 15" speakers, and not 12s. The longer speaker excursion is the main concern. But considering the styles I play, it may not really be that important to get the upper definition of the 12s.

3. One Fender 610 Neo
I like this option because the people who have the 610 Neo seem to absolutely love them, and it features a lot of speaker area. My concerns with this setup are: box size, dispersion, and handles. Like I've said, I drive a Civic and fit is important to me. The Avatar B212 barely fits in the trunk, and a 610 is much longer. The Fender 610 is the same depth as the avatar, but is about 13-14 inches taller. I am not sure that I would be able to fit the 610 in the car, except maybe in the back seat and even then it would be a very tight fit getting in and out. There are no side handles, which would complicate loading and unloading. This is the option I am the furthest away from, just because of the pragmatic issues. Also I do not traditionally like 10s, too much mid and not enough sub. But cab tuning and other things can make up for that.

Curious about opinions. Thanks!
 
First off, driver size alone has exactly zero to do with frequency response. Nothing about a 10" speaker automatically "goes higher" than a 15" speaker unless it's designed that way. There are 15" guitar speakers with ridiculously high frequencyresponse. Here's a Rivera guitar combo that costs upwards of two grand.

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And Phil Jones makes bass cabs with 5 1/2" drivers that will rattle the walls with bass.
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So set driver size aside and look for frequency response if you're worried about high end or "sub lows" (which you'll never faithfully reproduce with most production cabs anyway).

All that being said, the second option would be my favorite of those three. It's modular (you can take just one cab for small gigs), lightweight, easier to load in/out, and matches the head perfectly.
 
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Hey, Sky, your Fender Super Bassman would look good and sound great through some Fender Rumble 115 and/or 410 cabs! Lotsa members of the Fender Bassman Club use 'em. See the Members Photos section of the Bassman Club Wiki page, linked in my signature, for examples.

Some use a coupla Rumble 115s, some use coupla Rumble 410s, and some use some of each! They are designed to work very well together. Some 8 ohm 115s give great tone. FOUR 8 OHM 410s WOULD GIVE YOU MAXIMUM SPL! CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW! Mixed gives some of both!

The Rumble cabs cost as little as half the Bassman cabs and are proven performers and are lighter than the BM Neo cabs. Check 'em out. You won't be sorry.
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I’d go with the two 115s in a minute. Rod will likely be by to point you in the direction at some point. He raves about that combination. I wouldn’t make assumptions about 115s - they’ve come a long way and are more full range than you would think. I’ve been using two Aguilar 115s for a while now and they’re awesome! Great form factor too
 
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I use a Bassman 800 through a couple Rumble 115’s... sounded pretty blah... until I replaced the Rumble woofers with some proper bass speakers!! I wish I had just got the Bassman cabs to begin with!
 
I considered that, but it would be difficult if not impossible to fit both GK 212s in my Civic with the SB300

I don't see how, unless you're also carting your whole band around too. The GK 212s should easily fit in the back seat of a civic. The only issue I can see at all is if you have a 2 door, in which case it could take a bit of wrangling to get them in there. But then there's also the trunk (and the front seat) (band mates can ride on the roof, if necessary).
 
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I don't see how, unless you're also carting your whole band around too. The GK 212s should easily fit in the back seat of a civic. The only issue I can see at all is if you have a 2 door, in which case it could take a bit of wrangling to get them in there. But then there's also the trunk (and the front seat) (band mates can ride on the roof, if necessary).

I'm curious too, I could squeeze a pair of 410s into the back seat of my '05 sedan if I really tried, plus a full sized hard case on the floor.
 
I don't see how, unless you're also carting your whole band around too. The GK 212s should easily fit in the back seat of a civic. The only issue I can see at all is if you have a 2 door, in which case it could take a bit of wrangling to get them in there. But then there's also the trunk (and the front seat) (band mates can ride on the roof, if necessary).

The GK 212s are only about 3" shorter than the 212 that I already have. That cab barely fits in the back of the 2013 Civic I drive. While the GK would fit better than what I currently have, I would still have to put one in the passenger area and it would be a rather tight fit with the way the passenger area is put together. Perhaps not impossible, but likely uncomfortable and more likely to block visibility than the option I have already committed to at this point
 
Hey TB. I wrote a book. I hope someone will read it.

I've come into a couple grand that I would like to partially use for a pair of cabs to go with my SB300. Currently, I run the SB300 with a Player Series P-Bass with a 63 pure vintage coil, through an Avatar B212 with the Eminence 12s. I absolutely love the way it sounds, but the weight of the B212 with the headroom limitations is becoming a bit of a drag. Since the head itself is capable of 2 ohms, I am considering one of three configurations which I will list below.
I play punk rock with a grindy tone in one band, and more classic-rock eagles-ish stuff in the other band using a P Bass the whole time.


1. Two Markbass NY122 enclosures
I like this idea because I can get a cart for all of it, and I can use one or both for modularity. The cabs are wide enough to accommodate the head on top of them in a couple of different ways. This configuration features the most speaker cone surface area, but probably not ideal dispersion if they are next to each other. The head can handle two ohms, so this setup would work fine. I thought about the GK Neo 412 but it will not fit in my Civic. the two 122 cabs will fit in the car with my bass and the Super Bassman and the cart. Also would be loud. Very loud.

2. Two Fender Bassman 115 Neo Enclosures.
I like this because it is modular, lightweight, and the aesthetics match the head really well. I also get a heavy discount on Fender gear which makes this setup and setup#3 more attractive. This setup features the best speaker dispersion, but sacrifices about 100in^2 in cone area versus the 4x12. This also probably taxes the head a little less considering the 8ohm rating, and may offer the highest properly-dispersed SPL ability. This conclusion is not something I can back up with figures, but rather with rhetoric.
The only thing I really have a hard time getting over with this setup is the fact that it's 15" speakers, and not 12s. The longer speaker excursion is the main concern. But considering the styles I play, it may not really be that important to get the upper definition of the 12s.

3. One Fender 610 Neo
I like this option because the people who have the 610 Neo seem to absolutely love them, and it features a lot of speaker area. My concerns with this setup are: box size, dispersion, and handles. Like I've said, I drive a Civic and fit is important to me. The Avatar B212 barely fits in the trunk, and a 610 is much longer. The Fender 610 is the same depth as the avatar, but is about 13-14 inches taller. I am not sure that I would be able to fit the 610 in the car, except maybe in the back seat and even then it would be a very tight fit getting in and out. There are no side handles, which would complicate loading and unloading. This is the option I am the furthest away from, just because of the pragmatic issues. Also I do not traditionally like 10s, too much mid and not enough sub. But cab tuning and other things can make up for that.

Curious about opinions. Thanks!
Hey TB. I wrote a book. I hope someone will read it.

I've come into a couple grand that I would like to partially use for a pair of cabs to go with my SB300. Currently, I run the SB300 with a Player Series P-Bass with a 63 pure vintage coil, through an Avatar B212 with the Eminence 12s. I absolutely love the way it sounds, but the weight of the B212 with the headroom limitations is becoming a bit of a drag. Since the head itself is capable of 2 ohms, I am considering one of three configurations which I will list below.
I play punk rock with a grindy tone in one band, and more classic-rock eagles-ish stuff in the other band using a P Bass the whole time.


1. Two Markbass NY122 enclosures
I like this idea because I can get a cart for all of it, and I can use one or both for modularity. The cabs are wide enough to accommodate the head on top of them in a couple of different ways. This configuration features the most speaker cone surface area, but probably not ideal dispersion if they are next to each other. The head can handle two ohms, so this setup would work fine. I thought about the GK Neo 412 but it will not fit in my Civic. the two 122 cabs will fit in the car with my bass and the Super Bassman and the cart. Also would be loud. Very loud.

2. Two Fender Bassman 115 Neo Enclosures.
I like this because it is modular, lightweight, and the aesthetics match the head really well. I also get a heavy discount on Fender gear which makes this setup and setup#3 more attractive. This setup features the best speaker dispersion, but sacrifices about 100in^2 in cone area versus the 4x12. This also probably taxes the head a little less considering the 8ohm rating, and may offer the highest properly-dispersed SPL ability. This conclusion is not something I can back up with figures, but rather with rhetoric.
The only thing I really have a hard time getting over with this setup is the fact that it's 15" speakers, and not 12s. The longer speaker excursion is the main concern. But considering the styles I play, it may not really be that important to get the upper definition of the 12s.

3. One Fender 610 Neo
I like this option because the people who have the 610 Neo seem to absolutely love them, and it features a lot of speaker area. My concerns with this setup are: box size, dispersion, and handles. Like I've said, I drive a Civic and fit is important to me. The Avatar B212 barely fits in the trunk, and a 610 is much longer. The Fender 610 is the same depth as the avatar, but is about 13-14 inches taller. I am not sure that I would be able to fit the 610 in the car, except maybe in the back seat and even then it would be a very tight fit getting in and out. There are no side handles, which would complicate loading and unloading. This is the option I am the furthest away from, just because of the pragmatic issues. Also I do not traditionally like 10s, too much mid and not enough sub. But cab tuning and other things can make up for that.

Curious about opinions. Thanks!
What do you think of the BASSMAN 300 with an Aguilar GS 4X12?
 

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