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Cali76 only smaller?

#161
Eadger said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the HPF in the Cali isn't actually in the signal chain - it's just on the side chain. So unless your only use for the Thumpinator or FDeck is to get your compressor to behave...they don't seem to be rendered useless by the Cali (if you want to actually filter those subsonic frequencies from hitting your amp/cab/di, you'll still need one).
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There is no side chain jack in the CB pedal, only one for instrument and one for amp. Now I am confused...
 
#164
A compressors side-chain is a circuit that monitors the input signal and applies the degree of compression set by the parameters (attack, release, ratio and threshold). Every compressor has a side-chain control circuit, but there are some that provide an insert point (like the Empress) that will allow you to modify the compression characteristics externally.

-Frank
 
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#166
Matt Dean said:
Thanks for the clarification Frank. I very much appreciate your presence and contributions on TB.
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Thanks! I should have also added that the HPF in the side-chain does not affect the audio output, like it would normally if it were in the audio signal path. You can think of the HPF in the side-chain like a low frequency threshold modifier for the threshold setting. It will make the compressor less sensitive to lower frequencies, where most of the audio signal energy lives.

-Frank
 
#167
boomertech said:
Thanks! I should have also added that the HPF in the side-chain does not affect the audio output, like it would normally if it were in the audio signal path. You can think of the HPF in the side-chain like a low frequency threshold modifier for the threshold setting. It will make the compressor less sensitive to lower frequencies, where most of the audio signal energy lives.

-Frank
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So the HPF will work similar to the FDeck or Thumpinator in this instance?
 
#168
Matt Dean said:
Thanks for the clarification Frank. I very much appreciate your presence and contributions on TB.
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Thanks for your contributions Frank. Have to echo Matt. OT a bit, love the FEA. Just fixed this on a new pedalboard yesterday.

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#169
Amplified said:
So the HPF will work similar to the FDeck or Thumpinator in this instance?
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No, it will work just the opposite.

When those HP filters are used in the audio signal path, you will have a reduction of low frequencies in your audio signal.

When a HP filter is used in a compressors side-chain circuit, the low frequencies are cut just like above, but that essentially raises the threshold for lower frequencies. Which results in more bass energy in the audio output signal.

Side-chain filters (EQ) work in the opposite manner than they do on audio signals. I hope this clarifies audio path filtering vs side-chain filtering.:)

-Frank
 
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#171
boomertech said:
No, it will work just the opposite.

When those HP filters are used in the audio signal path, you will have a reduction of low frequencies in your audio signal.

When a HP filter is used in a compressors side-chain circuit, the low frequencies are cut just like above, but that essentially raises the threshold for lower frequencies. Which results in more bass energy in the audio output signal.

Side-chain filters (EQ) work in the opposite manner than they do on audio signals. I hope this clarifies audio path filtering vs side-chain filtering.:)

-Frank
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Thanks! I was not sure and decided to use the Thumpinator anyway (pictured above).
 
#172
The thing that I love about the hpf on the Cali CB (as well as the side chain eq on my opti-fet) is that it can really give you the "bottomless pit" type of low end response that is mentioned in the Ovnilabs review of the original Cali76.

I've been keeping the hpf fairly high on mine and it is just awesome sounding, especially with the attack set to the slower side. Keeps the highs nice and tight while the lows are affected to a lesser degree. It is a beautiful feature on a comp and is executed perfectly on the CB.
 
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#173
M Sterling said:
The thing that I love about the hpf on the Cali CB (as well as the side chain eq on my opti-fet) is that it can really give you the "bottomless pit" type of low end response that is mentioned in the Ovnilabs review of the original Cali76.

I've been keeping the hpf fairly high on mine and it is just awesome sounding, especially with the attack set to the slower side. Keeps the highs nice and tight while the lows are affected to a lesser degree. It is a beautiful feature on a comp and is executed perfectly on the CB.
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Mind sharing your settings?
 
#177
Amplified said:
Mind sharing your settings?
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Sure! It definitely took some experimenting to get to the sound that works best for me. There is almost limitless depth to a comp pedal as full-featured as this one. Everyone has different needs from a compressor and this one should be able to deliver. I use compression to add a little sheen on my tone and to help to keep everything super consistent for FOH. I keep it towards the end of my effects chain keep any peaks caused by filters or sub octaves in check. I really only ever used very subtle compression. It seems like this is the hardest thing to achieve with lower tier comp pedals. Sure, they can squash the hell out of your signal, but when you need just a little bit of leveling and some tone enhancement, no dice. I have extensively used the Diamond, Pwnzor, Cali76 TX, Fea Opti-fet, and Compressore. All of these excel at giving a subtle compression that gets the job done without being too obtrusive. The Cali CB holds its own with all of the top comp pedals on the scene, when it comes to what I need out of a compressor. I have experimented with extreme settings and I actually like every setting I could configure. It just comes down to what works for me with my band. We are an 8 piece cover band with full horn section. We do everything from top 40 to soul, blues, funk, rock. The setting I have used for the past week of shows are:

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#178
M Sterling said:
Sure! It definitely took some experimenting to get to the sound that works best for me. There is almost limitless depth to a comp pedal as full-featured as this one. Everyone has different needs from a compressor and this one should be able to deliver. I use compression to add a little sheen on my tone and to help to keep everything super consistent for FOH. I keep it towards the end of my effects chain keep any peaks caused by filters or sub octaves in check. I really only ever used very subtle compression. It seems like this is the hardest thing to achieve with lower tier comp pedals. Sure, they can squash the hell out of your signal, but when you need just a little bit of leveling and some tone enhancement, no dice. I have extensively used the Diamond, Pwnzor, Cali76 TX, Fea Opti-fet, and Compressore. All of these excel at giving a subtle compression that gets the job done without being too obtrusive. The Cali CB holds its own with all of the top comp pedals on the scene, when it comes to what I need out of a compressor. I have experimented with extreme settings and I actually like every setting I could configure. It just comes down to what works for me with my band. We are an 8 piece cover band with full horn section. We do everything from top 40 to soul, blues, funk, rock. The setting I have used for the past week of shows are:

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Thanks for sharing. I use subtle compression, and will try out your settings. Cheers.
 

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