Can you hear the difference?

[Dr. Cheese]

Sire V7s with Sixties and Seventies pickup spacing. I am having a hard time hearing the difference. Can you?

 

[JIO]

Someone should make a J with a (slightly oversized cavity) movable bridge pu (from 60's to 70's position) so this would seise to be an issue.

 

[wraub]

Definitely subtle, but definitely different.

 

[dabbler]

Someone should make a J with a (slightly oversized cavity) movable bridge pu (from 60's to 70's position) so this would seise to be an issue.

Our you could get something like this:

That's an SX, but mfr is not what's important about it. I wired it so that I can choose either coil individually, or both in series or parallel, plus I can put whatever I have chosen in the bridge pup in series with the neck pup (normally they are in parallel with each other). Maybe not exactly placed at 60s and 70s position, but it's close enough for me.

 

[Gaolee]

What little difference I heard could just as easily have been explained by strings or some other factor. I don't speak Japanese, so who knows what they were saying.

 

[JIO]

Our you could get something like this:

That's an SX, but mfr is not what's important about it. I wired it so that I can choose either coil individually, or both in series or parallel, plus I can put whatever I have chosen in the bridge pup in series with the neck pup (normally they are in parallel with each other). Maybe not exactly placed at 60s and 70s position, but it's close enough for me.

Exactly, with individual coil controls (as you have) you can approximate the 2 J bridge positions - hadn't though of that. Any further fussing is definitely hair-spitting.

 

[Thummel]

Yes, very subtle but possibly only to the extent that no two instruments sound exactly the same.

 

[Thrillhouse]

Definitely can hear a slight difference. Not sure if it's the pickup spacing or just variations in instruments, though.

 

[megafiddle]

There should be some difference. No one would argue that bridge and neck pickups sound different. Just a matter of degree in this case.

The difference in basses - strings and the pickup itself is a problem though. These differences might not only be causing the difference in sound, but they could be obscuring it as well.

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[Dr. Cheese]

I think I would hear the difference more clearly on passive Jazz Basses. Sire V7s have great preamps that deliver the Marcus Miller sound regardless of the bridge pickup position.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

I will have to listen to this through headphones tonight.

 

[Rib 13]

Sire V7s with Sixties and Seventies pickup spacing. I am having a hard time hearing the difference. Can you?

OK, heres the thing: I do hear a difference (slap parts - which I usually use to gauge everything), but the difference Im hearing is that the Vintage is slightly brighter than the Standard V7 and this may not necessarily be because of the pickup spacing: I know nothing about the strings used, if the EQs were set exactly the same ( as a V7 owner, I can tell you that even a marginal discrepency trying to match two V7 circuits exactly can make a giant difference: its a very fickle sytem), same strings or not with exact life, if the pickup heights are exact, etc etc...theres too many variables that need to be considered for the minor discrepency Im hearing

With all this said: I love bright punchy basses, and both sound great, but for this demo: I thought the V7 Vintage sounded more like Marcus and the regular V7 sounded more like a classic 70s Jazz Bass (w active electronics)

$.02 YMMV

 

[Jazz Ad]

I'm not sure anyone could hear a J and say if it has 60s or 70s spacing. I know I couldn't.

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Yes, very subtle but possibly only to the extent that no two instruments sound exactly the same.

Yeah. The sunburst one sounded a bit more tight/compressed and...aggressive? But it was not remarkably different. I've heard much more noticeable differences in basses that were exactly the same model.

 

[Clef_de_fa]

Very subtle but it could be because they aren't exacly the same instrument. It could be the strings more than anything at this point.

 

[Matthew Fisher]

Definitely can hear a slight difference. Not sure if it's the pickup spacing or just variations in instruments, though.

I agree. I hear a distinctly more nasal tone when he played the bridge pickup with 70s spacing, but it's hard to tell what's responsible for the difference.

What occurred to me is that when plucking directly over the bridge pickups, he's plucking in different spots relative to the bridge. That change in technique would sound distinctly different even on the same bass. So it's not a fair A/B test, except for players who plant their thumbs on the pickups. On the other hand, that's a lot of players.

Tochin's really good, by the way. It was cool that he brought in a fingerstyle player, though.

 

[DWBass]

In the context of a live mix with a band, you'd be hard pressed to hear any difference.

 

[SirMjac28]

I couldn't hear a difference but then again I couldn't notice a huge change when they introduced New Coke.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

I couldn't hear a difference but then again I couldn't notice a huge change when they introduced New Coke.

 

[Bassamatic]

No, and neither will anyone in your audience.