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Carvin BX1200

After my gig indoors last night, here are a few more thoughts.

1. Yeah, this rig definitely seems to have plenty of power.
2. The tone of this amp seems to be specialized for sitting well in a mix, but with one exception (read #3).
3. I was getting excessive noise when I slid my fingers across the strings. Even my singer noticed it. :o Anyway, I had to cut frequencies centered at 1kHz, and that seemed to help. That was never a problem with my previous setup.
4. At the end of the night, the amp seemed fairly hot. Hotter than I ever recall my Peavey amp getting during a gig. I'm pretty sure my fan works too. It's quiet when it runs, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it running. :confused:
5. With the Drive dimed, it seems to have a pretty good tone for my Rock band.
 
After my gig indoors last night, here are a few more thoughts.

1. Yeah, this rig definitely seems to have plenty of power.
2. The tone of this amp seems to be specialized for sitting well in a mix, but with one exception (read #3).
3. I was getting excessive noise when I slid my fingers across the strings. Even my singer noticed it. :o Anyway, I had to cut frequencies centered at 1kHz, and that seemed to help. That was never a problem with my previous setup.
4. At the end of the night, the amp seemed fairly hot. Hotter than I ever recall my Peavey amp getting during a gig. I'm pretty sure my fan works too. It's quiet when it runs, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it running. :confused:
5. With the Drive dimed, it seems to have a pretty good tone for my Rock band.


I agree with it being designed for sitting in the mix. It isn't really a bedroom quality amp unless you crank the contour knob (but then again who needs a 1200 watt amp for thier bedroom)? :D

I almost always cut around 1kHz...even quite a bit. That seems to be the frequency I find most annoying to me (shrill?).

Hmmm, my amp never ran hot, even after all night long. But I'm running it in dual mono mode and you are running it in bridged mode, right? I think almost any amp will run hotter bridged than in mono. But I wouldn't worry about it much.

Yeah, I think cranking the Drive gives it a pretty good rock tone. I play with that knob more than any other throughout the night depending on what songs I'm playing.

So how was it with the new LDS cab?
 
I agree with it being designed for sitting in the mix. It isn't really a bedroom quality amp unless you crank the contour knob (but then again who needs a 1200 watt amp for thier bedroom)? :D

Yeah, it's tough to get the volume low enough to use it in the bedroom. :D

I almost always cut around 1kHz...even quite a bit. That seems to be the frequency I find most annoying to me (shrill?).

Yeah, I agree. It is shrill. I think I cut at 1kHz by about 9db. That seemed to help without taking away from the overall tone.

Hmmm, my amp never ran hot, even after all night long. But I'm running it in dual mono mode and you are running it in bridged mode, right? I think almost any amp will run hotter bridged than in mono. But I wouldn't worry about it much.

Yes, I'm running it bridged into a single 8 ohm cab. It didn't shut off or anything, but it was noticeable.

So how was it with the new LDS cab?

It sounds great. The LDS takes what the amp dishes out and asks for more. :cool: ;)
 
BP - The 1khz noise you hear is the midrange driver I think combined with a flat amp. My Iamp requires a pretty steep cut at 1khz as well in order to not have tons of finger noise.

Don't think it's anything "excessive" so much as a side-effect of flat voicing + full range cabinet.

I bet if you switch to a composite bass you'd notice the same thing ;) When I first moved over to a composite neck I had to do a lot more eq'ing and careful technique adjustment to get rid of finger noise.
 
RP, thanks for your input. I just compared the BX1200 to my Peavey Pro Bass 500 with both amps set "flat". The Peavey was definitely less shrill at 1kHz and had more low end. The Carvin is definitely the brighter amp with more clarity.

I would have to say I agree that it isn't just the cab because I don't even have a dedicated mid-range driver in my 115's and the BX1200 is far brighter than either my Peavey T-Max or my Superfly was with those same cabs.

But...I would bet that the 15/6 accentuates it all the more.
 
OK, my BX1200 got another gig under it's belt. Yet another wedding gig in a huge hotel. Same scenario as most of our past weddings...start out slow, quiet and placate the blue hairs until the crowd literally demands LOUD rock music. :cool:

But we were at a pretty high volume by the third or fourth song already. Dance floor was packed from song one. This family has hired us twice before for weddings knowing full well that while we can do a variety of music, they hire us specifically as a rock band. And again, people were commenting to us how it was more like being at a rock concert than a typical wedding dance. The family is really appreciative that three times now, their kids got to have a "concert" for their wedding! :cool:

I am really digging the switchable EQ. Going from pick to fingerstyle, or from a brighter fingerstyle sound to more thumpy one with nothing more than the flick of a switch is really nice. Between the two settings (EQ on or off) and my technique it's so easy to coax such a variety of sound from this amp.

Loving the mute switch...A LOT! Because I installed my wireless into my bass, I now connect to my amp with a simple switch that turns both, the wireless and preamp, on and off. The thread for that install can be found here...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=561509&highlight=sundogue

With the amp's mute switch, it's great to just be able to kill the sound to my rig and the PA at the same time. Together with my wireless switch, between sets I can just hit the mute switch, flip the wireless switch and I'm off. No fussing with battery packs, transmitters, or unplugging to save preamp battery life or mistakenly killing my wireless while I'm still connected to the PA and sending LOUD white noise through the PA. Even just to have the mute switch for breaks between songs to not worry about unwanted noise from my bass is nice.

As far as the amp's tone and power goes, we were playing in a rather large ballroom in this lodge where everything was shiny wood from floor to ceiling. We were thinking it was going to be a boomy room, but the drums and bass sounded killer in there and for once it was the guitars that had problems. But we still didn't have the JBL speaker replaced in the PA sub on my side, so my side was carried by my amp. I'm really digging the power of this amp. It handled and matched the PA with ease.

I did add a bit of bass to my sound. I have been keeping my bass flat and also cutting the upper mids, but I'm finding that the louder I go, the more that "annoying" hi-mid is actually quite the bonus when the volume is up. I had pretty much everything flat last night with a touch more bass added and it sounded fabulous and really cut very well. With the Graphic EQ engaged and the hi-mids boosted my fingerstyle playing was really present and sparkling. When I wanted more of an old school sound, just turning off the Graphic EQ and playing more over the neck pickup I could really get that old "thump" happening. And yes, when I was really cranking and had the Drive full up, it really gave my sound some good snarl on some of the more hard edged rock tunes especially when digging in with a pick.

Running it in dual mono to two 4 ohm 115 neos, this amp delivers lots of power without breaking a sweat and even at it's loudest doesn't get hot at all.

I'm still waiting for my big outdoor gig in two weeks. This amp is going to just kill at that gig...and that one is all hard rock from start to finish. My other 500 watt amps could always handle it, but they always ran hot because they were pushed hard. Out of all the Carvin bass amps, the BX1200 was absolutely the best choice for me. More power than the BX500 or 600 and way more features with more versatility than the B1500 (and at 1200 watts the BX1200 no slouch to it in comparison either).
 
Due to the thread of possible rain, my band played indoors again last night, and the stage area was rather cramped. Still, the BX1200 performed admirably. The soundguy actually asked me to turn down a little. :D Anyway, yeah, the tone really sits in the mix well. I tend to just play with the Drive dimed.

As for the shrill 1kHz, I'm practicing at home with no cut, and it seems to be getting better. I guess it's not necessarily a bad thing for me to clean up my fretting hand technique a bit. ;)
 
Hey guys, I've been watching this thread for quite a while. I've got some gear to sell off to get a new rig, and this amp has definitely caught my eye. It might be a tad too much power for me at first, but in the long run, I think the features and price could be a bargain.

I was wondering if any of you have played this amp thru Carvin's BR series cabs. I like the idea of either having a 4x10 or 2x10 to match up with a 1x15, especially for bi-amping purposes. I'm somewhat turned off on the BXR series, as it appears to only come in a 4x10 and 2x10 format. I'm also considering a 2x12 neo from Avatar now and adding either a 4x12 or another 2x12 later. Also on the table is the GK neo cabs.

If anyone has played thru any of these cabs with the 1200, your opinion would be much appreciated. Specifically, I'm wondering about these cab's ability to stay punchy with a low B of a 5-string, in a classic & alt rock setting. My current bass is a Sterling 4, and I will probably add a 5 to it later (after the gear selloff).

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Hey guys, I've been watching this thread for quite a while. I've got some gear to sell off to get a new rig, and this amp has definitely caught my eye. It might be a tad too much power for me at first, but in the long run, I think the features and price could be a bargain.

I was wondering if any of you have played this amp thru Carvin's BR series cabs. I like the idea of either having a 4x10 or 2x10 to match up with a 1x15, especially for bi-amping purposes. I'm somewhat turned off on the BXR series, as it appears to only come in a 4x10 and 2x10 format. I'm also considering a 2x12 neo from Avatar now and adding either a 4x12 or another 2x12 later. Also on the table is the GK neo cabs.

If anyone has played thru any of these cabs with the 1200, your opinion would be much appreciated. Specifically, I'm wondering about these cab's ability to stay punchy with a low B of a 5-string, in a classic & alt rock setting. My current bass is a Sterling 4, and I will probably add a 5 to it later (after the gear selloff).

Thanks in advance for any help.

Dude. For the same price roughly as the Carvin cabs, you can get a 15/6 from LDS. That is the ONLY cab I have ever played that made the B-string sound good to my ears, other than my 3080 which uses the same low frequency driver :)

If you are into that you can even get it wired to take biamp inputs.
 
I played an outdoor gig last night. Although it wasn't a high volume situation, my amp still needed to carry the patio area for the most part. First of all, my LDS cab is just awesome, so I do very minimal EQing depending on what sound I need for a certain song. The BX1200 certainly has all the EQing options I'll ever need.

As for volume, I had the Drive set at 8 (3 o'clock), the Power Amp 1 set at 6 (1 o'clock), and I had the Master just above 2 (9 o'clock). That was enough to cover the patio playing with a moderate to loud drummer. If I had turned up the Master to 3, I probably would have destroyed the patio. :D

BTW, I haven't been cutting frequencies at 1kHz at all lately. I feel the bright-ish tone of the BX1200 actually sits quite well in the mix, but it probably doesn't hurt that I'm playing it through my LDS 15/6.5 cab. :cool:
 
I had the exact opposite experience on my last gig. No matter how loud I turned up I couldn't hear it. But...it had nothing to do with the BX1200 at all...it was ALL due to a very problematic room. Stone walls, high ceilings. I couldn't even hear the drummer and all I really could hear was the mids of the guitars that just droned on. Sounded good in front of the PA (I should have stood there all night) but sucked on stage, so I just turned down and mimed my parts all night.

Not the fault of the amp though.
 
I had the exact opposite experience on my last gig. No matter how loud I turned up I couldn't hear it. But...it had nothing to do with the BX1200 at all...it was ALL due to a very problematic room. Stone walls, high ceilings. I couldn't even hear the drummer and all I really could hear was the mids of the guitars that just droned on. Sounded good in front of the PA (I should have stood there all night) but sucked on stage, so I just turned down and mimed my parts all night.

Not the fault of the amp though.

I had a gig like that with my old Peavey Pro Bass 500/Avatar B410 NEO rig. I'm sure it was the room as well, but I think my new rig would perform much better in that room. Just a hunch... :D
 
I had a gig like that with my old Peavey Pro Bass 500/Avatar B410 NEO rig. I'm sure it was the room as well, but I think my new rig would perform much better in that room. Just a hunch... :D

My rig sounded awesome during soundcheck...by itself. But once the whole band kicked in it (along with most every other instrument) just got all jumbled together into a musical soup of mud.

The only thing more power gave me was more indistinguishable volume. It would have sounded the same if only the guitars turned up as I couldn't tell the difference. No amount of EQ'ing mattered, neither from me, the other musicians, the monitors or the PA. It was just a room from hell.