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Changes in society

I like younger people, they want more involvement that my peers did. They are not as satisfied aw we were standing outside of life and being observers they tend to want more participation. Besides, they can help me set up my TV. :thumbsup:
Unfortunately, there's also a whole lot of the opposite: Younger people sitting inside and away from life while streaming movies and TV, on social media and otherwise surfing the 'net, or playing video games.

Of course, this is all anecdotal; I don't have research or percentages to bring you.
 
I have noticed in a certain type of organization ;) that a lot of the younger participants are not satisfied just going to a gathering and being an audience once a week. They prefer to leave the building and get involved with helping people even when it can be challenging.
That's very inspiring. Something they're "called" to do, I presume?;)

And I'll leave the coded messages at that...:speechless::)
 
After about the 2nd half of the 20th century, western society (especially in America) had considered that the ideal body for women was one that was "slim".
This is either despite, or because of, the fact that obesity is so common (among men as well, of course).

But that has changed, and many women want to be physically fit with well toned muscles, not just "skinny". I think it's a good thing that so many men agree with this.

There's a CROSS FIT training club a few miles from my house and I usually see more women there than men.



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My brother and his wife own a martial arts school. They're both 5th dan(kuk) level masters. She is the main instructor there and pretty much runs the place.

At least half of the approximately 100 students are women or girls. I used to train there and would often be volunteered to be the "bad guy" who attacked the women so they could practice defending themselves.

I regularly got the crap kicked out of me. :D
 
I turned 50 just Wednesday.

The main difference in my lifetime? Instant gratification.

Most of what has changed can be balled up into that one little ball.

If we wanted knowledge, we either had to look it up in a book, or ask someone wise. Pretty much all knowledge is at our fingertips these days.

If we wanted food, we had to prepare, then cook it. Once again, fingertips can have it brought to our door. Or we can throw something in the microwave for about a minute, OR eat some pre-packaged garbage immediately.

Even our brothers and sisters on this planet have to be dealt with immediately if they step out of line. Hashtags, doxing, protests, etc. are deployed to shame anyone who disagrees with certain segments of society. It's a crying shame. I love all kinds of people. I'm glad we're not all like me. Enough about that.


There's plenty of beauty, joy, heroism, faith, etc. on the big blue marble. I'm going to spend my next 50 years seeking it out. Looking for the downsides sucks.
Happy belated B-Day! And hows that beer box lookin lately, pic?
 
And to bring it back to societal changes, I've got one for you: I see fewer and fewer kids mowing lawns, raking leaves in the fall, etc. Among all the other failures of "home training" by modern parents [sic] I have to wonder if basic yard upkeep is among the other lost skills of childhood.
Our son started helping with the yard when he was about 12. And yes, we pay him for that work. He's now 17 and this summer is working a part-time job. He definitely understands the value of work.
Me too!

Don't get me wrong. My father is my hero. But he was hard core! He would take us out in the yard and point at out house and say "See that house? That's not our house. That's MY house. You get straight A and do what your mother says and I'm happy to let you sleep INSIDE of it." Then we would go to the fridge. "See that food? That's not our food. That's MY food. You show us respect and do your chores and I'll share some of it with you."

That crap worked, too. :cool:
My step-dad probably thought those things, but thankfully my mom wouldn't let him say them.
One of the big changes I've noticed has to do with parenting and the coddling of children. I was born in the mid-'70s and I've seen parents become increasingly afraid to act as authority figures. I see it all the time: parents negotiating with their kids and acting as if they want to be their kids' best friend. It will be, "Hey buddy, could you please not do that" instead of a firm "Cut it out" (with predictable consequences if the kid doesn't listen). I hear parents tell their kids to do something ten times and these kids know full well that if they don't comply nothing will happen (except that mom might count to three again). Somewhere along the way parents got it in their heads that firmness and authority would be damaging to their children's self-esteem and would stunt their kids' mental development. This attitude has carried over into the school system and it's the same approach: coddle the kids and don't play the heavy. The funny (not so funny) part is that kids on the whole like to feel that grown-ups are in control - and they can smell the B.S a mile away. There are also plenty of kids (and I saw this all the time when I was working in elementary schools) perfectly willing to take advantage of the situation, manipulating not only their parents but also their teachers. These same kids get to university and think that they can call the shots there. They're often not wrong.
You're not wrong, and those kids are in for a rude awakening when they get their first full-time job. When our son was little, we verbalized consequences for improper behavior, and enforced them. And consequently, he gets that he's not in charge. I had to break my wife of asking our son to do things, and said to tell him instead. You give a kid a choice of doing something they don't want to do or not, guess what they'll choose?

Happy birthday, @slobake, and happy belated birthday, @two fingers!
 
I had to break my wife of asking our son to do things, and said to tell him instead. You give a kid a choice of doing something they don't want to do or not, guess what they'll choose?
Apparently my maternal grandmother was a bit on the soft side with the children. She would say, “Dear, I wish you would [do such and such]”. My grandfather was the disciplinarian of the household and apparently he was fond of reminding the children that, “Your mother’s wish is my command”. :smug:
 
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I think gym pickups are more a trope of fiction, fantasy, and what one may simply refer to as "exotic cinema." In the gyms I've been to, with people getting sweaty as all get-out, no one much looks like they rate staring, nor smells like anything you want to get close to. :wacky:

Or maybe I've just been to the wrong gyms. :laugh:
The gym where I go has plenty of women who are quite beautiful. They are there for the same reason I am - to get some intensive exercise. I have gotten to know them that way, along with other people, and they become friends instead of anything else. Works for me. Besides, I'm married and harmless and they seem to figure it out right away. I'm happy with that status.
 
One thing hasn't changed. Some in the older generation talking about what a bunch of worthless lazy louts the younger generation is. Happened when I was young and it is still going on. I find the same people who used to grumble about the older generation have grown into the same folks who grumble about the younger generation.
I like younger people, they want more involvement that my peers did. They are not as satisfied aw we were standing outside of life and being observers they tend to want more participation. Besides, they can help me set up my TV. :thumbsup:
Happy Birthday, Slo! And many more to come if you avoid TNC. That stuff will kill you, but you already knew that.

I'm a few years behind you at 61. My wife and I made a specific effort to make sure our son knew how to dial a telephone, properly handle a record, and all that. We didn't torture him by teaching him about why you need to rewind a cassette tape with a pencil every so often until it finally gets hopelessly wrapped around the mechanism inside the tape player and turns into a wrinkled up mess.

Like you, I like young people. It's amusing me no end to see them turn into us old people, slowly but surely. They are different in some ways, of course. I think they are more accepting of each other than older people for the most part. That's very good. The music a lot of them listen to is baffling electronic stuff with parts of older music sampled and inserted. That's a fad that will eventually pass, and music will come back to being played by humans. It all goes in cycles.

Another side of this is that more people can work from home now. There were trends that way, but it has really accelerated. Another trend that's a little opposite to that is the number of young people moving into apartments in cities. Seattle in particular is turning into a city full of people who live in small apartments and small row houses. I'm not entirely happy to see the development swallow my neighborhood, but change happens. We love our house, but I'm resigned to the fact that it's eventually going to be torn down and replaced by cereal boxes for people to live in. Our son and his fiancee may eventually live there, they may not. It will all depend on how their work situation flows.

The world has become a much smaller place internationally. China was a mysterious place when I was a kid. It was a closed place, and people didn't go there or come from there much. That's all completely gone now. Whether or not anybody is unhappy with our governments' relations with each other or trade imbalances or any of that stuff, it's a good thing that people can now travel a whole lot more freely back and forth for all kinds of reasons. That's true of a lot of places, but especially China. Vietnam is another one that's a completely different situation from when I was a kid. I hope the same kind of evolution happens in the middle east, Iran, and Afghanistan in the next fifty years. The world will be a better place if it does.

I have noticed a trend among younger people to be less and less reliant on owning a car. They seem to wait longer to buy one, and don't have the interest that I had. It makes sense. A car is a bit of an appliance now, and even the most pedestrian econobox is more competent than a muscle car was back when. You can't be a back yard mechanic and make things work and modify them to maybe work better now than you could. There's no reason to be interested in automobiles so much any more, and they aren't.

Other technology is too obvious to talk about, since it has completely altered how we relate to the world. I wouldn't "know" any of you if the internet and TalkBass didn't exist. And then there's the fact that I'm now over 60 instead of 21. So is my wife. Those are the weirdest and most difficult changes to fathom.
 
The gym where I go has plenty of women who are quite beautiful. They are there for the same reason I am - to get some intensive exercise. I have gotten to know them that way, along with other people, and they become friends instead of anything else. Works for me. Besides, I'm married and harmless and they seem to figure it out right away. I'm happy with that status.
:D

Someone once accused me of sexual harassment. They called me in and asked me some questions. About halfway through my boss walked in and said "This guy literally walks around with a picture of his wife and kids hanging around his neck! He's about harmless. Unless you have some footage of this we're walking out now."

(My ID badge is covered on both sides by and actual picture of my family. Not exactly chic bait.) :cool:
 
I believe the world was a better, more fun place before the Internet existed.

If I could wave a magic wand and turn things back to a pre-Internet world and never allow the Internet to exist, I'd do it in a flash.

Just think... no BS social media... no cyber-bullying... and no negative results from all that poop. People simply seemed to care more about stuff before the Internet. Communication was more heartfelt and people were more "present" in their lives. It was a simpler life, yes. And dealing with the shut-in of the pandemic would've certainly been interesting without the internet... but I'm prepared to deal with that if it was possible.

What say you?
 
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